Ex-Trump adviser Roger Stone indicted in Mueller probe


A few hours later before a Florida judge stone was indicted on seven counts, including obstruction of an official preceding making false statements and witness tampering all the charges stem from special counsel, Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the two thousand sixteen election outside the court stone vowed to fight the charges. Okay. So let's dig into what those charges are. And what they may reveal about the Malar invest. Education to do that. I am joined now by Jennifer dascomb. She was a Justice department lawyer in the Obama administration. She now teaches at American University school of law. Jennifer good to have you here. Thank you. So your take on the central question of how this indictment may advance. Our understanding of what happened between Donald Trump and his campaign and Russia. So in a lot of ways the indictment confirms what's already been known. But it does so in a very detailed and diligent way, highlighting the great number of channels of communication between the Trump campaign and WikiLeaks WikiLeaks, of course, was the recipient of Clinton campaign communications that we know were stolen by Russia. There's a line that's drawing a lot of attention and kind of clue that's dangled. This is page. Four of this twenty four page document. It's referring to July twenty sixteen in. It describes a senior Trump campaign official who was directed to contact stone about releases to to WikiLeaks. What we don't know. Is who directed a senior Trump campaign official. We assume Bob Muller knows right? We assume that Molinos than we think that I mean, this looks like another building block in in. What is increasingly looking like, a pretty strong collusion case. It's it's not a smoking gun. But it is another very solid building block that shows that a senior Trump campaign official was was directed to context stone. The Trump campaign was involved. It was active. It was working via stone to to learn about an potentially coordinate to some extent that the dumps that that were ultimately released other emails when you say, a strong collusion case, let me push you on that. We had David Brooks of the New York Times in the studio earlier, and he said to him. The takeaway is that the president then candidate may have surrounded himself with a lot of questionable people. However, would they have needed to go through all of the things that this? Indictment lays out as you say in great detail. If there really were a direct channel street to the Kremlin. So there's there's collusion doesn't necessarily mean that there's a direct channel straight to the to the Kremlin. There's there's other means of establishing collusion. And this again is a is one building block that shows a lot of different connections that that lead back to the Kremlin. And ultimately, I mean, we have to wait and see what molar ultimately produces. But you're seeing I think a very careful building structure of of what may very well be a collision case at the end of this. So did we learn anything today in your view that tightens the web around the president himself? So there's nothing here that leads directly to the president necessarily again, we're there's language about a senior Trump campaign official. There's other language in the statement about senior campaign. Trump officials, and so it certainly suggests that people that were very close to Trump if not Trump himself knew a lot of what was going on. But again, there's nothing in here that specifically leads directly. Back to Trump and based on your close read what does this indictment? Tell us about the direction that Muller and his team are heading again. I think they're they're building. A very careful case there this is now the six Trump advisor charged. It's building a real web and at suggesting some some potential collusion, at least coordination and next shoe to drop a miniature said, this is this is the sixth who's who's left of significant stature and interest. But who has not yet been indicted or charged or cleared? So, you know, it's it's it's impossible to predict we don't know for sure. But of course, Bannon's around Miller's around there's there's other folks that are still out there that may have information, and we've just got to wait and see. All right. That's Jennifer dascomb. She worked in the Justice department under President Obama. She now teaches constitutional and national security law at American University. Jennifer Daska, thanks for stopping by. Thank you. Roger stone is also a self-described dirty trickster, the white haired bespectacled stone has been a force in conservative politics since the Nixon

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