"Us. Very few people whether they're happy admitting it or not are entirely indifferent to the hoisting of the country's flag. For a survey of what different flags mean to the people of different nations. We consulted the riot Asli multinational stuff here at monocle. I'm the foreign editor here at Monaco. Canada's flag the maple leaf was introduced in the sixties as way to set itself apart from the Union, Jack, which was on our previous leg since. Then it's probably most notable around the world as being spotted on backpackers backpacks as this rose in the seventies. When Canadians did not want to be mistaken for Americans during the Vietnam war when they were traveling, and that's continued on through the Iraq war and even today. I'm actually betting with Trump. There's been a bump in backpack sport in Canada flex. I'm Stephanie's Kia, and though I may not sound like it. I grew up in the United States where the flag is held in sacred esteem when we were very young we were told that it was not allowed to touch the ground and friends of mine who attended senior schools at after I left had to swear allegiance to it. It's a symbol that is everywhere in public life. You'll see it in the grocery store and at the gas station. I'm Karen Miller. And I'm the culture editor at Monaco. Now unity is not an easy thing to combine Italian politics or for that matter in its citizens national identity, but it is that precious and rare feeling that the Italian flag represents and celebrates over the years. It has naturally been used by people in all signs of the political spectrum from partisans to fascists, but somehow it has managed not to become just a preserve of far-right and theorists. It remains overall a benign and relatively neutral symbol of Italy's institutions its constitution and its young Republic, not particularly incendiary symbol. And when was the last time anything to do with the Todd politics felt fairly sedate? I'm Ben violent a producer and present at monocle twenty four. Now, I've got to say that the Estonian flag has long been a fairly contentious issue. Although overwhelmingly it is seen as a positive symbol. I would say that considering that indigenous Australians aren't necessarily represented on the flag. He can lead to a bit of misunderstanding to the types of issues that indigenous people do phase now importantly indigenous people do have their own flag. And that is why the respected among the strains as well. It's often seen at sporting events and the international events as well. So it's not as if there is no representation whatsoever. But when Austria tries to pitch it's flag as one fly, the represents all stray liens one. Does get the feeling that. Actually, there are a large number of stray into might feel as though in fact, they're not represented by that one single flag. I'm page and I'm a research app. One cool twenty full, and I am from the exotic southwest suburbs of London for me the Union Jack is actually quite an aesthetic flag, very bold colors at symmetrical and very recognizable. But it's still interesting. It's not just a Colo this sort of intricacy to the pattern. In fact, it's service Leszek that I chose the Union Jack to be on my bed sheets at my in my first year of university. And I studied in Dublin this proved slightly problematic as any later that I sort of realized that the eight hundred years or so of oppression was a factor. I should have considered before the junk on my bed sheets. And I think that's why maybe people feel a little bit uncomfortable about the Union Jack of it is so closely associated with the Royal family and colonialism, and it's got that nasty hangover sense about her. I'm your lane if affair and where I'm from. A nation is divided as Belgium split between the Flemish in the north and the loons in the south the flag has hardly anything to do with patriotism. It is almost exclusively used at sporting events. When at least we're little while the nation feels United even separatists don't mind waiting the Belgian flag and the World Cup from his will be merely seen as supporting the Red Devils. This is the foreign desk on monocle twenty four I'm joined once again by two Marshall, and we wanted to close out the program by by trying to set the oh, I'm sure not at all vexed question of whose flag of all the countries in the world ease best. I've drawn up a little list of my own come up with five that I really liked for various reasons be interested to see if they overlap with yours, we have not shared notes. Maybe if we start with what what are your top five over there? Okay. To be boring. I'll have to say that it is subjective. And if you'd say what are the best flags that work? I would give you different lists giving them even example. I like the Kenyan flag because the designs crying good. But the the the shield in the middle of it is a mess, I warrior shield now the messiah only about one point five percent of the Kenyan population. If it'd been a shield who are about twenty percent poppulation that would be a serious problem. It would be a bad fly. Leg because why do they went into the mess? I nobody's really bothered is simply something. Oh, yeah. It's symbol of our nation. So it's a good flag, Mozambique. It's on my list right for bad flags. I hope I caught like, okay. Well, I think it's a bad flack because it's got an AK forty seven on it, which isn't good. I believe but also because it's so similar to the flag of from yellow which was the organization that took on joined the independence fight full moat, Mozambique. But the problem is they represented overwhelmingly woman, particularly ethnic grouping in Mozambique. And so they pretty much said right off lag is now going be the national flag. So I think that's also that's a negative flag. Right. Good flexible flex. I. That's through the good flags. I like the Japanese flag simple, but effective, and when you know, a will the sun never sets, and you know, that behind Japan there is nothing except the sea. And then that sun, which is why I love the Macedonian flag is just mad. It's on my list. Okay. The sunburst it comes from Alexander. The great that they think was Macedonian, of course, the Greek student agree. It's just so not in the grouping of European flags each their South Korea is nice. It's not on my list. But it's in the Yang light. So over there in eastern and the little things in each corner. Actually, they mean, something to the South Koreans Brazil. Yeah. Good co- bit fussy. If you wanna talk, I let's believes but. The stars on the Brazil flag are in the position. They were on the day that independence was declared in the sky, which I like an I also liked the colors. But that's where the subjective thing in how we imbue meaning to it. I like the Brazilian football team and they play in those colors. And so it's kind of more attractive was in and of itself is just blue green Italy simply because it's such a fantastic lease simple and beautiful flag that immediately says good food. Bit again, that's the reverse engineered projection things. Actually, I also had on my list. I had Pakistan's flag, which I think is is simple and beautiful until the story of the country and has become trees. Placing the little stripe down the left hand side of the flagpole side is to include all the minorities of the indeed. So I I think it's a lovely flag. The practice may not have worked out quite like the theory. But I do like to play it's important that you have there. It's like I said the American flag doesn't always live up to its idea until the factors is if it's the thirteen stripes for the thirteen colonies, and they fought for liberty against the oppressive Brits. So in the flag is the concept of liberty. And it's important to have it there. Even if you don't always live up to its value. The ones I have mostly in aversion to flags which have the map of the country on them. So that Cyprus and Kosovo I think Cambodia's is annoying because it's just being tourist attraction in the middle of Bosnia. And Kosovo both looked like they were designed by committees. Try not to upset. Anybody and I guess understand. Also, I know the man who designed the Bosnian flag so much will pass it on to. Which might your list of disagreeable, Mozambique for reasons that we've gone into ready in the K forty-seven Greenland. It's just read in top and white at the bottom. And then the circle in the middle of it, which is white at the top. It's just boring. Uganda? Uganda's is black horizontal stripes. Black yellow red followed by black yellow red. It's like you've taken the German flag in the Belgian flagging sewn them together. And in the middle is this bird. It looks like a sort of chicken, you get an Endo's. It's actually the crane which is a national vase just it's just too fussy Nigeria. Green white green. Great country. But no such a like, and then Antarctica again the same guy that designed the Bosnian flag design how to hand in designing the talk to flag two thousand and two NET simply on a blue background for neutrality. And then the shape of enter Antarctica on it. It's just the best for like in the world. But the best flag in the world. I think we have agreed is Macedonia's. No, we have. Agreed. It's yorkshire. Is there a Yorkshire flank? We'll call is what's on light blue background with the white rose of Yorkshire Brian there in the middle, which I happen to have exactly the same thing. Tattooed on my right shoulder. So officially then the best flag in the world is Yorkshire Macedonia. Running a close second for my lecture notes on social thank you for. But he's it for this episode of the foreign desk went back next week and lookout for the foreign disc spleen available every Wednesday the foreign desk is produced by Yanni Goffin and Bill Bill so edits the program. My name's Andrew Miller. Thanks very much for listening until next time. Goodbye."