Character of God: A Cup of Wrath?


Okay, here we are we are talking about. Anger. We're talking about God's. and. We're talking about exodus thirty, four versus six and seven were said to be slow to anger, and here in this conversation is like the previous conversations, Tim Tim. Hi And KRISTA accuracy. So Let's jump right in. We've just kind of been taking ground Tim you've been walking us through some of the revelations you've had studying God's anger and God's judgments I don't know if Chris you're Tim WanNa do a bit of a summary Or. If you want me to or do you WanNa just jump right in share I can go for it. Okay. So the first thing we talked about was that this is kind of an uncomfortable topic for a lottery. Reasons that anger is a difficult thing for us to understand in humans and also in God. So we talked about that. We talked about how God's anger God's judgment are not intertwined in the biblical story. So God gets angry without judging. Actually he shows acts of mercy the first time that he gets angry and then he judges often or brings justice without being angry we talked about how bringing judgement or justice is often a handing over to natural consequence or to. Zion that actually I started avoiding the word natural. Because that's just loaded with some modern concepts I actually struggling to find a good replacement word, but it's the logical outcome. Hands people over to the cause effects sequence that they have chosen. Started themselves something like that yes. Oh, we looked at the first occurrence of God's anger with. Moses. After he resists being God's Prophet five times and that's followed by an act of mercy. He just says, okay. Well, I'll send Aaron with you to help you out. We looked at the incident of the golden calf where God gets angry at the people and talked about how his Anger a lot of times is related to to his people not trusting him or or breaking the relationship with him. So a lot of times, his anger or his judgment occur in that context. So that tells us something about divine anchor consum- some red. Okay. Anything else good summary. So I think where we WANNA come from here then is just look at main portraits of God's anger in the Torah in the Prophets of Old Testament and then. After. That in the story of Jesus how Jesus Came as a as a prophet of good news in Israel. But also that comes with a warning of God's judgement, and then after that exploring God's anger in especially in the letters the Apostle Paul he he's got a pretty nuanced way of talking about it. So the Torah, the Prophets Jesus and then Paul that's the roadmap simple. So. Okay. So let's we already talked about the three first occurrences of God's anger. They're all in the book of Exodus when Moses Stubborn and resist. You just Kinda summarize Krista the second one is after Pharaoh and his army perish in the Red Sea. There's a poem that Moses Miriam Sang about it and they talk about how what happened to Pharaoh was instance of God's anger to bring barrels evil back on himself and then the story of the Golden Calf and we talked about that a fair amount in the last conversation I wanted kind of zero in on it as we start actually here and I've been reflecting on that last conversation then I think I have a few. Better ways to to say it what divine an anger means in the story of the Golden Calf. So God gets angry of Moses Beckett Exodus three. But as you said, he doesn't act in any kind of severe way. Does it at the burning Bush inside the burning Bush when you get to the people all of a sudden God is angry and he wants to destroy his people to to bring an end to them is what he says to Moses give me rest I want to bring an end to them and that is severe. John Every time. Read it. It makes you little allergic and uncomfortable. So here's a way to think about it. The whole narrative of the biblical story is got a point humans to be as representatives in the world they rebel they WANNA, get blessing by their own wisdom, and so they you know take from the Tree God, exiles them, and what they do is corrupt and ruin the land through violence and bloodshed flood. God appoints a new humanity noah, his wife and his family, and they go and repeat everything that Adam and eve and their kids did from the chapters genesis. So God tries this new strategy of investing in one particular family out of all the nations that's Abraham and so. Pretty much from Abraham four word God it's as if the more corrupt humans become, the more tightly got binds himself to one particular Human Family through these covenant promises and these Covenant Promises Create More Complexity for God's purpose not less 'cause. Now God's committing himself investing himself allowing certain people to be as representatives, but there are no better in fact, they're often worse than other people. So by the time you get to the Mount Sinai. God has married himself to a whole nation of people and we talked about this principle that I tend to get more emotionally stirred up by people the. More emotionally connected to this kind of a natural thing. So I think that's actually a really important dynamic 'cause the rest of the Old Testament. After Abraham is all about God's relationship to one family, and what you'll see is that God gets most angry in the all estimate at the people who are most close to him and I think that's important because that's actually part of the Messianic trajectory of the Old Testament. Story. Is that these people are selected from among the nations to get God's blessing but that also makes them more liable to God's justice than your average whatever ancient Babylonian something because God didn't rescue the Babylonians out of Egypt. So they're not as obligated to be faithful to him but when the people that he did rescue are not faithful to him it makes him more angry. This helps us at least begin to think about God's intense anger in the Old Testament is mostly directed to the people of Israel and the golden calf story is a good good example of that.

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