Michael Thomas, Bob Hayes, Football discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed


Know and I know we put a lot emphasis on speed out here. But there's no one in that really had a four three that has earned a gold jacket right. It is interesting Shannon. Deserve another point does skip skip. You could run fast and then you can play fast. Those are two different things and people. Don't think people really understand that Jerry. Rice did not run fast. Shannon Sharpe didn't run fast. Steve largest didn't run fast but they play fast. Running rows skip is all about creating separation is getting in and out of breaks and what Michael is talking about. Is like when you're a when you're fast in order for you to get unless you're running a go route? Which is there more outs and comebacks than go routes in the playbook so what Michael is saying is that when you run something other than go route and you have to decelerate to get out of that break. He said he's GonNa Close. He's GonNa drive on the football if he's seen okay. You starting to chop because get nobody roads go route chopping. So he's GonNa Drive on the ball. He see you break it down. Would you what we call putting the blink on earth and get out of that break? Yup they're coming so if you can't play. Uk dropped your hips and get out of that breaking hurry. You got no chance. I don't care how fast you are because you gotta realize. Db's skip. They get paid McDonald's to run his pants backward as you do forward so they're really good. They're the best athletes on the field and I love the play wide receiver with the tight end but the DB's those guys are better athletes. So Michael is absolutely right. Candidate got transition. Can't he fit something up because as I said before there are more? There's only one go- route but there's a lot of things that you can do up to go round but if you can't sell that's giving you can't drop your Hilton. Get in and out of that break now. Now they're you know. Obviously it's hard for me to believe. Give Their Bob. Hayes didn't run three. He wanted to go metal in the damage in the nineteen sixty Olympic Randy. More sixty four county ready moss but for the most part. Now what we're seeing is that it will. Michael came out and when I came out. Skip guys didn't leave for eight weeks. Go to these camps in. La in Texas employer and this train specifically to learn how to run forty. You're right yes. But here's the thing guys. That are fast. I mean you could take a guy that runs fast and teaching technique and you can get him to four for. You can't get a guy that runs five flat and teach them to run four bore. No so either your fast faster. You're not now. Technique is working. Help you run a little faster. You can go from four three with the proper. Take me but if you fight for that you're not coming down because see that's NFL. That's what he likes you. Okay see if you fast. I can teach you how to run. Routes I teach you how to catch the ball in focus more. I could do drills like that either. You faster you. North Carolina heightened basketball skip. I can teach you how to dribble and set picks and all that. I can't teach how to be seven foot. If you can't do that so mike is absolutely right. I mean we put so much emphasis on speed. Oh Oh yeah. Yeah he wrote. How many times does this? How many times is roads going to get an opportunity to open up in us? Four to seven will he better be able to drop his hip? Because when you run that faith is just like any cards gift. You start going two hundred miles. An hour is going to take you longer to slow down now. Then me going fifty miles an hour. So that's the difference the deceleration and you're GONNA tip defensive bikes off and they're gonNA drive on you and you fall at two children. I was at that speed up. Nobody do anything. Gifts come lull. Yes the next thing you know you know what you need. I ran a four six seven. Do you know who has the longest playoff touchdowns from scrimmage in NFL history? Oh six seven Chez Chez both IRA bow to a report three eight zero both audible cowboys the Iran for eight for them using the cowboys missed. I don't gobble admits that all this here you know takes. Graham started all of this Combi oven. Forty gillibrand rescued meal. Just find a mate. So you're good so over the last ten years I've come to love watching the combine. It's great and they put it on Prioriti- Tom. Finally in I was hooked like I was hooked and I watched the whole thing and I couldn't stop what there's NBA on. And I couldn't stop watching the combine. It's just a track meet and it's fun but it doesn't translate into what's going to happen on the football field. No because John Ross still holds the record after last night. Thanks to rugs having a little shaky. I haven't seen very many guys. They complain about four to seven but he seemed to be upset that he'll report only so easy the second when he was really trying Jordan he was kind of side to side. Lost some time that way but look John. Ross has had a few moments over his three years with the bengals but he's been beat up and hurt and he's not transcendent. Not Changing the game. No okay so let's go back to. I knew pretty. Well Bullet Bob Hayes. Who started all of this because he won the hundred meter dash at the Olympic but he had played football at Florida. Jacksonville Florida right okay. So the cowboys draft him in the seventh round because everybody said he's just a track and they start throwing him bombs Don Meredith. The Great Don Meredith is just bombs away to bullet Bob in sixty five sixty six when he makes his. I do pro bowls. I will remind everybody. He's going up against a lot of white cornerback. Half of them were still white and it was a complete mismatch because remember bullet Bob in ran a sixty yard dash in five to eight. So if I'm doing a little algebra formula backwards that means his forty would have been under four yards three eight hundred three nine. Yes okay. That'd be the all time. So it's it's a joke. Yes yes and he was six feet one hundred and eighty seven appropriate huge four hundred meters. Look at Chris Tacoma. Kristen Coleman wave one fifty five hundred sixty okay. So that broke the mold. Yes but in general I have found over the years that while speed thrills. It often kills the receiver where it restricts them for all the reasons that you talked about. Because we've seen the freaks Randy Moss all-time free right He. He's six four two six four to ten drafted but he ran four to five. That's that's absurd. Yeah okay so he was the greatest ever to me and we saw two other freaks we saw. Julio and Calvin Johnson and they're huge men especially Calvin Johnson at six to six. I'm sorry six five six five seven four three. It's sick what he was doing. But but both Julio and Calvin didn't have that killer intangibles Julio dozen were they just dominate you you know that that will kill sort of thing on the field okay. So now we get to the goat. You bring up Jerry Rice. He ran four seven. The cowboys passed on him because he ran for seven eight. Now he's the goat. Go to me. My Goat is Michael. I've told you I would take him just on intangibles and killer will over the goat Jerry. Rice Michael ran for five to right. Okay so what's going on here what's going on is who's the best receiver in football right. Now Michael Thomas Right. Who's the offensive player of the right? He just set the record for single season catches when forty four forty one K. He almost ran four six four five. Seven that impressment. That's why he fell down to mid second round. All Right. Should he have gone the top ten? Yeah I didn't know what they know loudly. Yes okay so how does he do it he does it? Because he's he's a big he's six three to twelve. He runs with power and control. Yes and he has physical strength to snatch it the way you did it your position. Where if it's GONNA get your catch radius? It's GonNa Stop Shea. Sharp from catching the football in once. He snatches it he can turn on you and you're going to have a hard time getting him on the ground right but he can stop start. Stop Start yet he can. He can set you up and come out of a break quickly. Amari cooper the Odell Beckham Junior. Skip to go back to you Bob Hayes. Bobby should have been the first hall of fame. You know why. Because before every before Bob Hayes everybody play man to man it would Bob Hayes that force them to go everybody to go zone. Because he just ran by everybody he did revolutionize okay but it took him. He retired in seventy five. It took thirty four years for him to get in the hall as a senior. Can't right now field issue with a Buddy? You know we still. They're saying off-the-field shouldn't have anything to do with but but he had to go to prison. General right okay. But the point was that when Michael saying there's not a four three guy in the hall Bob is. He's not with US anymore. But he's he's in the hall. He's not at the niche key luncheon. He's in the hall. He we feel very comfortable saying the fastest hall of Famer that we have in our book that build up feel very comfortable and say I would agree does tyreek. He'll have a shot at being in the hall of fame. Maybe maybe maybe okay. So He's another freak to me right. He's a smaller man. At what does he like? Five ten one one eighty five so that you know five ten one eight hundred five. He ran for two eight at a West Alabama. Pro-death four to eight okay. He's he's just like scary fat. Yes yes and he's pretty pretty good. He did actually run routes right skit remember when he first. Let's think about him when he first got into the League to where he is now. He wasn't this Polish receiver he's taught himself how to run routes something other than deep routes. Now they have been running dig out. They have him running over out. There have been running things other than just posting goals. But he taught himself that right. Yup Okay but think about what's around him. This always helps around him as a tight end. You almost have to double cover it right. Yes and around in you've added Sammy. Watkins who can run and me call who can fly. Nicole ran four to eight. You read where. He ran at the combine. I don't know if he ran is Jordan. Pro Day I think four three or four three four last year because he got from a Paris hunter. I think that's his name from Ohio State. Yeah with so mature the Fassulo Campbell. Parents can but that's okay so again. Tyreek has the advantage of weapons everywhere where you can't focus on him every play which which gives him an advantage. The way I keep telling you I believe Jerry. Judy had a huge advantage. Todd mcshay at. Espn is calling this class of Alabama receivers the greatest group of receivers in college football history. Because you saw rugs can do judy and four four five last night and Devante Smith went back and Jalen. Waddell is still there and they're gonNA be high picked. Yes okay so does that not take some focus off Jerry? Judy's not give you a CH- give him more of a chance to get open because he don't play he's GonNa play a space. You can't double everybody and I think the big that forty four remember in the Super Bowl Skip. It was tyreek. He'll speed because they thought he was going to take it across the field and now he builds it back on the seven out or the sale and now he's wide open. It was because of his speed. That scares everybody in my homeboy. Got Away with throwing punt headed to the land. He says I can't hold it anymore. Here goals you know what he's trying to catch guy you know could've made that play. I could've caught. That could seriously okay. So the point is that if you're surrounded by weapons it might make you better than than you actually are. Solo took tyreek and put him with the Patriots last year. I don't know if he could have been quite successful you could you? Could you could calm.

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