"The Emmy awards were last night and for a second year in a row the ratings hit it and all time low but bad news for broadcast. TV was good news for streaming joining me to recap the ceremony is the chief TV critic at Variety Daniel Daniel Diario. Hi How are you. I'm good. I WanNa ask you this whole idea of the hostess award show. It feels like it's not going away anytime soon. If you were to grade the as on how they handled it. What kind of Marx would you give them. I would give the EMMYS a failing grade for how they handled filling in the gaps without got a host. I thought all of the interstitial bits all of the comedy all the attempts to explain to the audience what TV was fell totally flat. I will say one positive fringe benefit was that I noticed that fewer stars were being played off and the longer speeches were more impactful and more thoughtful every other aspect of the production. I thought didn't work and I missed the presence of a kind of guiding intelligence. Let's listen to the speeches that did get to run a little bit longer. This is Michelle Williams accepting her emmy for playing gwen Verdon and Fosse Verdon and so the next time a woman especially a woman of color because she stands to make fifty two cents on the dollar compared to her white. Male counterpart tells you what we need to order to do her job. Listen to her the. I think it's important to note Michelle. Williams has simone history with this. She went back for some re-shoots on the movie all the money in the world. She got paid a thousand thousanddollars. Mark Wahlberg got a million and a half so this is a personal issue for her but it feels like the really did discover something by not playing Michelle. How Williams off absolutely I think I mean I feel as though if you think back a couple of years when Nicole Kidman won for big little lies she ultimately we got to give a long speech about what she learned about domestic violence in the role but she was kind of fighting with the orchestra in a way that kind of sapped the dignity and meaning of the moment the fact that Williams was able to kind of speak in Kristalina way as composed she was carrying across these points that were personal to her relevant to the project relative to Hollywood. I thought it was really important on unfortunately with the viewership being what it was. I'm not sure how many people saw these great points but I I still think it was important. Let's talk about the viewership because it does appear that the ratings were an all time low for the Emmy Broadcast and it does. I feel like what was celebrated. Last night was not network television. I think Saturday night live with the only network show that picked up any emmy's in the primetime ceremony last tonight. Does it feel us if this is a network show that celebrating stuff that you would never see on any network. Yes it feels as though this is a network show that not only we celebrate stuff that doesn't air on network but stuff that never could I mean fleabag show. I greatly admired that was the night's big winner in comedy is so so far beyond I think what the great network watching still extant mill American audience is accustomed to that basically could come from another planet. I think what this means for. The EMMYS is an existential question going forward of what the show can do and where it should even be. Would this be better better served. If we put the Amazon Netflix would be better served. We put it on"