Johnny Lawrence, Kelly, John Claude Van Damme discussed on Villains



Villains. All right. Let's get back to the podcast. Next category. The Jason say them school for rehabilitation. Like, I do I do like this. We we were talking about fasten the fears before this podcast started matter of fact, but quick recap and furious seven Jason Tatum as a villain. He kills one of the members of the fast and furious crew. He does he spends a whole rest of the movie trying to kill everybody on good ole Han, and then fate of the furious part eight by the end of the movies, not only part of the crew. But also like everybody loves him. And we're all friends part of the family can that happen with Chongli. Can he get along with with Frank deuce? Can he be rehabilitated? Now. One thing we didn't really get out to the Monterey was his sort of long view reaction. There wasn't a dukes. You beat me fair and square kind of thing. There wasn't the Johnny Lawrence. You. Parking lot wasn't like a post game ceremony. So we don't really know how reacts to but. Absolutely. Could they could have gone and trained together could have been like a rocky Crete them. They could have become the best of friends. He could have joined the army with with Frank dukes army with accent. And he'd be rehabilitated on. So I looked at this. And I tried to figure out a way, and I couldn't get there because like in today's movie universe. We can always have team even yesterday's movie universe. Like, you said, it could be an Apollo thing. Where all of a sudden those two guys become buddies and politics two Kelly to train them. So we can go be club line. Didn't see anything in this movie. Perhaps that was because of the lack of dialect. We already talked. All of backstory of who he was the very very beginning. I believe is. He South Korean look like he had a Korean flag on. Yeah. But so very big. That's the only Baxter got he came from somewhere shows. Came from somewhere that he had to leave the day before he left. We knew we had to leave. Showed up, and then he's there to murder people. I couldn't get there especially because one we're when we're introduced to him as the primary villain for rage. Accent tells us a story about the previous Kuma matai where he kicked a guy in the throat and watched him die. And I was like that might be beyond rehabilitation. Okay. Okay. Let me let me ask you a question. Then if you kick a guy in the throat. What else are you going to do? Besides watch them die though, like water what he's not into doctor and was maybe backstory. He can't help him. I don't know. What else you do after you kick a guy throat like that's what you're supposed to in the ER reboot. I want. Yeah. Is that the so is at the moment of like the point of no return for you like there's nothing I can do I looked. So I think in every all of these movies with the Johnny Lawrence example, that you were talking about there are moments where you go. I don't know. Maybe like there's a softer side, and he'd been with Allie and all this stuff. Like, there could be a part where you go. I could see some sort of redemption for him in some way, there's nothing in this movie that suggests that he's redeemable like if there was one moment that wasn't just him being a murderous killing karate machine fighting machine. I'd be like there's one moment. They're like where he said something or did something even gave a look, but even with this is is icy murder when I was doing other research stuff and trying to find old articles new articles old videos, new, videos, whatever I found the one where John Claude van Damme and Chung Li meet up again like recently in the last three or four years or something like that there. Restaurant. I think it's a birthday party for John Claude van Damme and bolo young walks in. And he still looks exactly the same. I fall. But he even in the video when I saw him there was like this visceral like oh shit there. It's about to go down right now. I still I was still afraid. I was I was expecting like blitz for two is about to happen. And they they made they made a few jokes or we're going to do to whatever..

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