Kentucky Derby, Jerry Bailey, Kentucky discussed on ESPN Radio
We've got. Breaking news on what happened over the weekend at Churchill Downs. When maximum security was the first horse across the line. But then of course, was disqualified becoming the first horse ever in the history of the Kentucky Derby to be the first across line and not be the official winner because of an objection by two jockeys and the stewards decided yes that he did foul the other horses so country house went on to win the Kentucky Derby and just a few moments ago on the today show, the the the owners of maximum-security made the decision that they will not run in the Kentucky Derby Breton, excuse me. This is. Gary west maximum security is owner is what we are. We good with this. Okay. This is what he said about his horse skipping. The Preakness a rematch would be great for the sport the Preakness is in two weeks. It would also be an opportunity for you to prove your horse is in fact, the best out there right now. Are we going to see a rematch? You're going to run in the Preakness. No, we're not going to run into Preakness. Why not? There's no triple crown on the line for us. And there's no reason to run a horse back in two weeks when you don't have to so maximum security is out and all by the way, his owner there. Gary west also said they will file an appeal today with the Kentucky state racing commission. And then he essentially partly went off on Churchill Downs in the decision that was made in historic fashion. Yeah, we're trying to get that song. That's what I want to hear what he didn't say about it. Yeah. I don't and as far as the appeal. I mean, listen again, we are not experts in this field. We have no idea of the appeals process or or if what the chances are of it working. I think most people are believe it's not going very slim. I imagine work. So if none of you know, what really happened in this this again, the Kentucky Derby maximum security, really from start to finish the only horse of wasn't money on the front on this one in a in a sloppy track. Rounding the last turn basically think of it this way. In track and field in the racist. Where you have to stay in your lane think of a runner drifting over a lane or two exactly this is what the horse did. And the objection was brought up by a couple of other a couple of the of the eighteen horse long range tied in the twenty horse country house. It was an objection. They brought up this went to the stewards. Now, the stewards can look at this on their own, but they went for, but it got to be an objection from the jockeys. There was a twenty two minute review of this tape. And then history was made the first time ever horse crossing the finish line. First of the Kentucky. Derby was disqualified. Look you, and I have knowledge is we aren't we're not going to pretend like we're horse racing experts or anything none of us. We didn't know I didn't see. It's like a million things like in like in a video replay, you slow things down there much easier to see. And I think that's part of the problem here that some people might be having with this. But we went to a source, right? Listen, we're we're not going to pretend like we're horse racing experts in any way, shape or form. So earlier today in case you missed it. We had Jerry Bailey on with us. He does great work for NBC sports. But he's also two-time Kentucky Derby winner. I'd say that gives them some pretty good. You know, he would know he's been in these things where it's been a clean track a muddy track. There's all kinds of congestions on the track with horses around them. It was a pretty big field in the Kentucky Derby. So we wanted to know what actually happened and whether or not the jockey Louis Sayas was it his responsibility to make sure the horse didn't drift. And here's what Jerry Bailey had to say about that. Ultimately, the jockey's got to keep them straight. It's like driving on a turn and a car right next to you. If you don't stay in your lane, you're going to bump into the car right next to you. And that's exactly what happened in the Kentucky Derby, and it was Louis Sayas did Yawkey maximum security. Job to keep his horse rate, especially since it was another horse right on his hip, and that didn't happen and that caused number one long-range Taty to check up. In fact, he could have easily clipped the horse's heels and fallen and in turn causing number eighteen to check up as well. Now number twenty really had very little to do with anything. He gets the slightest of grazes yet. He is the one that claimed foul and probably smart by jockey floppy of Brad to make sure the stuarts actually looking at it. And once they did it's like a collateral penalty. Maybe the first penalty didn't happen. But once the officials look at it they saw another penalty kind of what happened here. Yeah. It was really I. Because when when you even when I'm watching the replays. I was watching, you know, trying to figure it out as a casual observer going right country house, really what didn't seem to be affected by this. You know, you saw when the lane started to change that that the one horse war of will definitely got got hit. Yeah. Got bumped jockey. Did a great job. Yeah. Awful. All you hear about from the experts here is the the tragedy that was a verdict here. Yes. Because of one of those lead horses goes down what that could do in the chain reaction and just how bad it could be. But then it seemed like an domino effect country house just got touched a little bit. But enough to say, hey, you know, let's throw up the the challenge flag out there. Let's see what happens, and and it certainly went in their favor, and it went from the favorite horse and maximum security to sixty five to one long shot right being the Kentucky Derby winner, and a lot of money changed hands because of that. And we'll get into that discussion a little bit. Later, but we also asked Jerry very specific question because the horse apparently was spooked by the crowd, right, right? Maximum security was so we asked Jerry was the drifting something that would have been correctable by the jockey, the jockey of maximum security was Lewis says I think part of it was correctable part of it was when a horse changes feed on a turn and shifts out. It's in mid-flight. It's in the air. Now, you're not going to straighten his course out until he actually hits the ground again in this case is a little too late. But he went out like at least two paths. So I think maybe fifty percent was on Louise says the other fifty percent he wasn't going to be able to correct. Until the the rubber met the road. If you will kill the hooks actually hit the dirt was a great explanation. We'll give it more in detail and a little while he was talking about the lead for the horse on the turn coming around the turn of the left. And then when it straightens out, it's the right? I mean, he really went into some that you could really kind of visualize what was going on out there. But basically saying, hey, we're going around the term when the. Horses in the air. You can't really control it, you know, until the as he said, the hoops are on the ground to control it. But what controversy a was that we wondered if maximum security because we heard about that horse. When it's run hard needs a little extra time to rest, certainly sounded like in that that sound bite that if they were the winner of that that they would have run the horse. Obviously, you're going for the triple crown, but maximum security, not running. We don't know about country horse yet whether that horses running in the Preakness, and I I don't think many people feel this horse has a real great shot of winning the triple crown given the circumstances, but this horse go for it at this point. His second of the Kentucky Derby, so the horse. Ran you know, a really really nice race in third which ended up being second with code of honor. That's we'll have a few shekels is. All right. But I was you know, kind of come out now that didn't quite work out for him better to certainly worked out for anybody that held the ticket for for country house. Well, that's how many people actually held onto that ticket because you're at the derby. And it's raining. You're probably jolly for lack of a better term in soon as that thing comes in. I wonder how many people held onto those tickets long before they saw the objection. Go up the tweet here. And you have no idea this tweet from Jeff if you're to believe it or not he said, he had a buzzy, buddy. At the Kentucky Derby that found a twenty dollar to win ticket on the ground. And when he was waiting in line to get paid. He found another two dollar to win ticket on the ground. It's hard not to believe that weren't there weren't some of those on the ground, right? When the race ended for casual betters that would've been us quickly. We toss those, you know, instead of you know, smarter better. Owing to hang on 'til you see the official results up there. But I wonder how many people would actually admit to I threw away a winning ticket. Yeah. Absolutely crazy. And then we also talked to Jerry about this. How will this change not only the derby about racist going forward knowing that? Hey, you know, there is a serious serious. You know, that old line substantial penalty for early withdrawal. Yeah. I mean, there is a substantial penalty here. And here's what Jerry had to say about that they needed to take the action. And I think it makes the rate better in the future because I think he jockeys going to have in their mind that they're not afraid to disqualify horse. If the actions needed so again, that's gonna be weighing. I think in a lot of people's minds, and I think jockeys question we brought up to Jerry as well because we've all seen penalties in sports right at the end of games. Yep. And we always are always saying should the rest swallow, the whistle and players are always saying, and I'm one of us. I just want consistency. If you call it the first quarter, call the fourth quarter. So I guess in this case if you're going to call it in a regular race. Do you call it in the Kentucky Derby, so I'm reading articles about something like this goes on basically all the race tracks at least like one time per day. Correct. Whether the stewards bring up the issue or jockey brings up an issue with it. So it it certainly not not a rare that this that has brought up. But as we said, it's never happened to the Kentucky Derby, and I've heard people talk about that. Do you make this call at the Kentucky Derby, and again, Jerry Bailey said absolutely you do being jockey knowing the safety issues that can be involved. If you let something like this goal and what tragedy can happen on the track. And if you missed her today with Jerry, go check out the entire interview with Jerry Bailey, again, NBC sports, and a two-time Kentucky Derby winner all be all part of the goal of podcast brought to you by capital..