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Federal courthouse in Brooklyn has hosted since November the trial of one of the world's most wanted man. He was a billionaire and cartel boss. He stands accused of ordering murders and running one of the world's most profitable and deadly drug syndicates Hari Sreenivasan caught up with a reporter covering the trial. And the man known as El Chapo. He is the world's most infamous and ruthless drug kingpin and his federal trial in New York has produced one explosive revelation after another with the story line that is equal parts gangster movie and soap opera, Joaquin El Chapo Guzman ran has sent a lower cartel in Mexico, an international drug operation, he used almost as a license to print money and kill anyone who stood in his way whose was repeatedly captured by Mexican authorities and escape from prison twice the last time in two thousand fifteen through a nearly mile long tunnel dug right into the shower of his cell. He was recaptured in two thousand sixteen in extradited to the us for more on all of this. We're joined now by Keegan Hamilton, the US editor of vice news and host of vice news podcast Chapo kingpin on trial. Thanks for being with us. You've been in the courtroom all week, given what just went by? It does read a bit like a telenovela you've got testimony from a mistress. You've got a drug kingpin. You've got his wife in the stands. This is all real life. It was a pretty remarkable week in the courtroom. And like you said it felt like a soap opera at times with was mistress on the witness stand his wife in the gallery and the text between troppo and his mistress displayed on the screen in the courtroom for everyone to see it was quite the drama. There's a bigger picture question here of the levels of corruption that might have existed between El Chapo, the former president of Mexico. And now there's some indication possibly members in the campaign of the current president. That's correct there were several bombshells this week as you mentioned the biggest one was the allegation that chopper when the scene a little cartel paid a one hundred million dollar bribe to regaining NATO, your former president of Mexico. After that, we saw in a court documents that was unsealed an allegation that's in two thousand six a member of the current president of Mexico Andres Manuel Lopez over door member of his campaign may have received a bribe from members at seeing a little cartel. What are the former president in the current president said all this outright denials, a former spokesperson for NATO called the allegations false into family, Tori? The current president Lopez over door has declined to comment on its, but his spokesman said that you know, these comments are coming from a protected witness at a trial in the United States, and therefore should not be believed. One of the things that is interesting is the tech savviness of his infrastructure. We're talking about encrypted cellphone networks the ability to spy on his mistress without her knowing it through her cell phone that was one of the more remarkable revelations of this past month. One of the key witnesses and. One of the most damning witnesses that testified so far was a Colombian who was essentially hired to be the scene, a low of cartels, IT guy, and builds custom encrypted communications network that by all accounts was working rates and tell the FBI approached that guy and turned him into an informant and gave the law enforcement access to the servers which allowed them to record all of these conversations that chopper was having with basically everyone in his business as for the spyware that was chop ozone doing where he installed commercial spyware on the phones of his wife and mistresses and all of those communications were recorded and the same IT guy gave the FBI access to that data as well. Chapel. React in any way. When his voice was playing out through the courtroom. Not when his voice was playing in the courtroom so much normally he's pretty stoic easy. They're staring down whoever's on the witness stand. He's talking with his attorneys or he's trying to catch his wife's attention in the gallery is most notable reaction was at some point when his mistress was testifying. And we were seeing these messages between them that were both embarrassing and highly incriminating, and you could just sort of hung his head a little bit and seem to be staring down in his lap. Which was really the first time we'd seen any sign of defeat on troppo throughout the course of the trial. Let's not forget this is a man who sat on top of a very violent cartel, and it was financed by moving enormous sums of drugs. Put that in perspective. What what's the scale that? We're talking about. Just this week. We saw the FBI give evidence about a drug ledger that was tnd during a raid on one of Chaplin's properties. And in the course of a little over a month. We're talking about three million dollars worth of drugs more or less that moved through the organization, and that's just what was contained in that one ledger that they know about I think it's safe to say tens of millions hundreds of millions of dollars per year are moving through this organization. The US authorities haven't been able to seize the assets of troppo. So who knows how much he has squirrelled away in Mexico and elsewhere, this scale of drugs is enormous hundreds thousands of kilos of drugs the federal prosecutors when they filed these charges have hoped to seize fourteen billion dollars from troppo that seems kind of like a fantasy at this point since they found none of that money. But it gives you a sense of what US authorities think they can prove the worth. Worth of of the drugs that he traffic into the United States over the years is and for people who don't know the landscape how violent how big was this cartel or is this cartel. We see numbers as high as two hundred fifty thousand people killed in this war. I mean, the the scene a little cartel is the largest and most powerful drug trafficking organization in Mexico. They are moving drugs across the hemisphere and in Mexico. They are in the past especially have been responsible for a significant significant amount of the violence in Juarez, for example, along the border with El Paso, Texas. Basically a personal dispute between Chow and another drug trafficker escalated into a war that made what is for a while the murder capital of the western hemisphere Kagan Hamilton, the US editor vice news, and host advice is podcast Chapo kingpin on trial. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. Stay with us. 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