Fauci clashes with Sen. Rand Paul over NYC's COVID sucess

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This coronavirus has been politicized from the jump in the United States. But this week's pandemic politics have been particularly jarring. It started on Monday. The CDC pulled guidance from its website that said that this virus mainly spreads by air guidance that they only posted. Friday guidance widely accepted as fact in the scientific community but the CDC pulled it and said, it had been posted in error not a great look lots of unanswered questions. Then on Wednesday Dr Steven Hahn Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration appeared before the Senate to reassure the nation that the vaccine approval process would not be politicized that a host of experts outside the organization would weigh in before any approvals were granted almost immediately after that happened president trump said in a briefing that may or may not happen and that the whole. Thing sounded quote like a political move at that same Senate hearing Wednesday we saw something rare Dr Anthony Fauci. The country's top infectious diseases. Experts seem to lose his cool with Senator Rand Paul. You've been a big fan of Cuomo in the shutdown. New York lauded New York for their policy New York had the highest death rate in the world. How can we possibly be? Jumping up and down and saying Ho Governor Cuomo did a great job hit the worst death right in the world no you misconstrued that Senator and you've done that repetitively in the past they got hit very badly. They've made some mistakes right now if you look at what's going on right now, the things that are going on in New York to get their tests. Positively one percent or less is because they are looking at the guidelines that we have put together from the task force of the four or five things of masks social, distancing outdoors more than indoors avoiding crowds and washing hands, or they've developed enough community immunity that they're no longer having the pandemic because they have enough immunity in New York, city tax challenged that senator. Free. Please Sir I would like to be able to do this because this happens with senator rand all the time you and not listening to what the director of the CDC said that in. New York twenty, two percent. If you believe twenty two percent is heard immunity I believe you're alone in that we're used to seeing heated exchanges in Congress, but this one felt different because Dr out she has been a paragon of patients during this entire pandemic we got in touch with him earlier today to ask his patience was running out but we started with what's to come with this pandemic as we head into winter. Good Morning Dr out she. Good Morning. How are you today? I'm doing well great to have you back on the show. Welcome to my closet. Okay, get good ventilation in there now be careful we don't want you fainting on me. Happy. Equinox and new season is upon us, and of course, winter is coming what's in store for the United States as as the seasons change during this pandemic well, you know it's going to be complicated because what we really need to appreciate is that as we enter into the full in the winter, a lot of things that we would have done outdoors, which is part of the public health programme the protocol a now going to have to be done indoors, which means it'll be an. Extra special challenge we often say the four or five things that really do work. If everybody implements them is wearing masks keeping a distance avoiding crowds outdoors than indoors washing hands. If everyone had done that diligently, we would not have seen some of the surges that we've seen that have given us. What I would consider is an unacceptably high background, and by background I, mean is the number of cases per day which even when they're in young people who most of whom are without symptoms, minimal symptoms nonetheless, it propagates the outbreak and you've got to get that down remember when we. Were trying to open the economy in the country a couple of months ago month and a half ago. The southern states you know literally metaphorically caught fire. And the number of daily cases were around seventy thousand with about a thousand deaths per day. Now, we're back down but you between thirty and forty. But like day you go yesterday was forty some odd thousand cases that's unacceptable as you enter the winter. If you WANNA, go into the fall in the winter and have to have the extra challenge of a potential flu season, which will have hopefully, we can mitigate it together with the fact that most people will be indoors in most climates. In this country, it's an extra challenge I would like to get that baseline way down way down in a few thousand, not thirty or forty thousand.

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