Scott Warren, Arizona, Tucson discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts


Year. Federal authorities arrested Scott Warren for allegedly providing food water and shelter to undocumented migrants near Arizona's Sonoran desert. Then they charged him with harboring and conspiring to transport the immigrants charges. They could have led up to twenty years in prison, Morin, however asserted, that he did not break the law that he was upholding religious and international compacts to aid persecuted people. He was put on trial in Tucson, federal court and yesterday that trial ended with a deadlocked jury. So what impact could this case have along the southern border? And we want to hear from you. What do you think about a trial against a person providing aid to immigrants in along the southern border? Joining us now from Tucson, Arizona, as Raphael Carranza. He covers the US Mexican border for the. Zona Republic and was at Scott, Warren's trial, Rafael, welcome to one point. Thank you so much for having been begged. So first of all, tell us deadlocked jewelry. I'm not sure a lot of people expected, that out of this trial, how much of a surprise was that it was as much of a surprise. I didn't you know, these were issues that came before a jury. But the evidence that was presented during the trial from the government was not very far there wasn't a lot of direct or indirect evidence that, that showed a Scott war in had committed a conspiracy, or had made any sort of green or plans to help lease to migrants. However, you know, the deliberation took about three days and on the second day at the very end. The jury sent a message to the judge that they were deadlocked in that they can come up with the verdict and at that point, the judge brought them back into the courthouse and ask them to try one more time. So they did that on the third day and then after about half a day of deliberation. There about four hours. They sent the same note again. To the to the judge who brought them into the courthouse once again. And at that point after asking them individually if they've felt that giving them additional time would help them reach a verdict all of them said. No. So he ended up dismissing them declared his trial. I see. So Warren belongs to a group called no more deaths, right? At what is it that this, this group does, and what was the basis for Warren's arrest last year? So this group has been around in southeastern Arizona for about fifteen years. And their main work is dropping off a water gallons and food as well in some of the most transited areas that migrants have used and in particular, they're, they're they've been targeting the an area. Call the APO corridor, which is, you know, a stretch of very remote and rugged desert, where there's very, little very little civilization there, you have a highway, basically that leads from the Mexican border to a whole, which is a town about forty miles north of the border. But in between it's protected wilderness. So there really isn't any way for migrants were crossing to these remote areas to find water unless they come across one of these water drops. And then also, you know, upset of other humanitarian aid groups also do, but that's, that's their main tasked with providing water for stranded migrant special. Rafael as you just said, this group has been doing this for fifteen years, and yet, what was the argument that the government was making that Warren had committed a felony last year. What was the argument they made in court? So they the, the arrest happened on January twenty eighteen and it was a result of a surveillance operation that border patrol had fed up on this. There's building call the barn. They, they were looking for to undocumented immigrants that in tracking them they have them to this location. I'm they had arrived approximately four days, prior, and Scott Warren was the person who had received them and he's in court. He's, he said that he had followed a no more deaths protocols, and you're doing a medical assessment and calling a doctor who recommended they say off their feet because they had a blisters on on on them. So he says, he's just he had followed that protocol, but the, of the argument from the government is that war and had conspired with a director of a shelter in. In the nearby border city of Asia, and that they had to work together or come to an agreement to help these two migrants. Kind of further themselves into the United States by just, you know, concilium from border patrol for few days. Okay. Well, let's listen for a moment to what Scott Warren himself.

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