John David Washington, Ron Starr, Jesse Thorn discussed on Bullseye with Jesse Thorn


It's bulls eye. Jesse thorn in the studio with John David Washington. He's the star of black klansman. He also plays the NFL player. Ricky Jarrett on HBO's ballers. Let's hear another scene from black klansman, and my guess, John David Washington, who's the star of the film. So John David's character and his partner flip who's played by driver are at the police station, and they've just come back from this is relatively early in the film, an undercover an undercover operation at a meeting at a Klan meeting and flip who is white. And is the in-person Ron is upset because his cover was almost blown by one of the Klansmen who's very suspicious of him. And that guy basically just tried to get him to take a lie detector test at gun point. And also drop his trousers to prove that he was not Jewish only very narrowly escaped the situation. Trap, the pecker wood had a gun in my face, and he was an error away from pulling the trigger and he didn't. But he could have then I would have been dead for what stopping some jerk from playing dress up flippant into. I'm not risking my life to prevent some rednecks from money a couple of six on fire. This is the job. What's your problem? That's my problem for you. It's a crusade for me. It's a job. It's not personal. No. Should it? Be. Why haven't you bought into this? Why should I if because you're Jewish brother the sole called chosen people you've been passing for a wasp white Anglo Saxon Protestant cherry pie hotdog white. Boy. It's what some light skinned black folks to they pass for white doesn't that hatred? You've been hearing the clan say doesn't that piss you off? Of course, it does. And why are you acting like you ain't got skin in the game brother rookie? That's Mike can business. Business. Your voice is so important in this film. You mean the Ed to convince the David had David Duke convinced and clans members convinced that he was a racist. White man, you're making choices both when he is on and off the phone like I feel like this would be a different story. If the premise was that he was doing, you know, the white voice direct one to one code switching. If he was doing a white people voice on the phone, and and black people voice off the phone in the in the ways that people think of them, it would be a less complex story for this character than the way that you chose to do it that was another. What was so compelling about the book, even just how he, you know, Ron Starr, we've talked about this that he he didn't change his voice at all. You know what I mean? And I love that you know, the whole. As we understand coats, which in and all that he he saw it as he had he got into character as as an undercover detective does he talked about that, you know, being like acting and getting into character he had to speak these words of hatred the vernacular of of racism in. Hey put, but he didn't change the, you know, his voice at all. So I couldn't have either I shouldn't have either. I would I would have done a disservice to to the man into the film. If I if I had it if I'd have done that. So I just wanted to keep it as authentic as possible. And and be able to to to also understand as I did reading it in doing research how complicated it is to be an African American detective police officer in this country now blue enough for the department. I black Nuffield community they know and to be able to display that us in the manically was a great opportunity for me to to. Explorer? It was it was something very curious about and wanted to to invent a lot to me to be able to to to put on display how thankless of a job it is. And how we as a community need to be especially in the African American community needs to be more specific with our contentions with with, you know, with, you know, how we feel about law enforcement, you know, because there are there are some cases out there..

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