Lyme Disease, Oregon, California discussed on Lyme Ninja Radio - Lyme Disease


That I am covered by insurance because, you know anybody who's been dealing with lime disease knows that it definitely can be very expensive process to try to recover from lime so anything that we can do to help make that easier. National physician. Where's white says? Gee, I wonder if I can if they're licensed natural paths in my state where can they find out that info at the American Association of naturopathic physicians? No here in New York, it's we're not there yet. Now keep trying though. Yeah, there's a few states that are that are still kind of struggling with trying to get that to go through and gain acceptance. What it does when that happens is it provides more safety for the public because if you know if people don't know, and they're going to see somebody who calls themselves in after Pathak doctor in, in somebody doesn't know that there are programs out there that it, we're individuals might go school for just a couple of months, take classes online, and if they're working at a state where they don't have to have any type of credentialing or a degree or prove that they've passed boards and olive added that there are continuing their training, you know, they can just hang shingle on. Sam naturopathic doctor. So you really there are people who are practicing unlicensed states that are from for your medical programs. You really want to ask somebody if you're gonna go see a naturopathic where did you graduate from how many years, did you go to school may be licensed in other states where there is licensure where they're maintaining that. But it really is safety for the public. You want someone who's working with you that has a medical background that's gonna be giving you medical advice and providing care Besters, one of the schools. And what are the others yet? I went to the national college of natural medicine, and there is also the southwest college of natural medicine or naturopathic medicine in Zona, and then investor also has a satellite school in, in California, as well. And there is also a school up in Vancouver BC, but there's, there's just a few of us than there is a school in on the west coast in Connecticut, but I think that it is actually closing, but it was a Bridgeport, which port university, so. Yeah, there you go. There's a little bit of background. They're not think that's important because it's we hear sometimes actually it's like Audi pronounce it right into its nature, Natura Pam as you start. You start there's like, how do you pronounce that thing? And then it's kinda like, well, what exactly is start talking to two different practitioners. And some of them are such MD's like you said, and then others are just like experts in supplements. So it does make it may. A huge difference in, in California. They can prescribe medicine as well, right? And here in New Hampshire. That's well, yeah. So it's, it's really, you know, you guys are the first than now, the trying to will not try to, but the functional medicine movement on the MD side of things is really trying to bridge that gap. But a why reinvent the wheel? You've got this wonderful training and education already in places like just become a natural path. Well, and it's a different type of training. So there's things I, I know what I know. I know what I don't know. And there are things that are going to be perfect for someone to come see after path for, they're gonna be things that are going to be more suited for seeing a conventional medical practitioner, that has hospital writes, in that can escalate things in a way that, that I can't that might training dozen involved. But when it comes to the chronic disease model naturopathic are really, we're, we're really trained from day, one to be managing a chronic illness, and that really is the, the number one issue, over acute disease, you know, over cute infections, the chronic illness is the one that's really putting a strain on human quality of life, and on, really the medical system in general, both financially, and, you know, in all respects so, speaking here and really focusing in on the patient in their whole story. So our goal is to really look at all aspects of, you know what a patient has been through up until the point that they are sitting down in. Our office. And then my job is to try to help them build themselves back into being healthy over the course of time in with lime disease. That is especially true, that there is a there's a whole rebuilding in restoration process along with trying to get over the infection speaking of that. Why lime disease? Why did I specialize in that when I first moved here, I grew up in Portland, Oregon actually I I'm not actually what east coast girl on the west coast girl, but I've lived here for about twelve years, and twelve or thirteen years. And I when I first moved here, my goal was to start a clinic for general practice, general family medicine, and environmental medicine was my main medical school. So cleaning people out toxins out of them getting helping them restore their health with how they eat in with our what's in their homes in their bodies. So doing key Latian in heavy metal Latian detox and people started to show up I growing up the reason why. Growing up in Portland, Oregon or growing up in an area where there isn't really much lime. Or at least there, wasn't for me growing up, and it was nothing compared to what it is here on the east coast. You know, it was I had no idea of what it really meant to live somewhere with a epidemic. You know, having to go outside. I mean, we had bugs in all sorts of stuff, and things like that in Oregon, but not not like it is here with ticks, and so people started to show up with illnesses, and I, you know, by hearing, their story, I tested them for lime are positive. I'd say we'll go in go into your PCP this positive for lime. It's an infectious disease at the time I wasn't how, how hard can it be? Gertie again. And, and I don't really like to anybody attics, it's not my thing. You know, I just graduated it was I that wasn't my focus or my comfort zone, so people came back patients come back by the week or two later and say, you know, I tried and they refused, they used to treat me so Mike. What am I coming from a social work background? I have a real problem with disenfranchisement and people not getting the care that they need. And so I started treating in this area once people here that you treat Lyme disease. They, you know, the word get quickly. And then. So we'd been a few years that I started to treat lime just because it kept showing up. So the practice chose me. And then I found out I had it. A line I had lime disease, Fabio sus. And so the patient as well. Yeah. So that was very life changing and helped me, a better doctor have those. Yeah. So where what did you turn to, to begin learning about line, the first packet, the first thing I ever read, and actually I'm going to be doing a lecture with him in a few weeks? I'm I'm a little nervous about that because he's like my lame superhero. But is a Joseph I gone. Oh, yes, of course, he has a packet out online called advanced topics online disease. And, and when I was, I thinking, all right. Maybe I'll do this lime thing, but many doctors doing it and people need help, and I gotta get myself like I gotta get some idea of what to do. What's going with that handle this? So it's about a forty five forty forty page document, and I have recommended over the years, because it was for a long time before other books that come out online that was. A really nice resource for people that could be reliable because it's a big issue with people trying to find reliable information around Lyme disease with the internet, especially with everything out there. And all the fear and kind of the, you know, the opinions about it. So I would say that was my very first resource that really helped me in, then, of course, I've been training, a member of eyelids. And, and I've been doing their trainings for years in some going yearly to the conferences the best, I can in the knife, started off by taking their they have courses that they teach every year for new doctors that are treating lime to kinda give them a primer on idea of how to get started. So I started with that about a decade ago or a little over a decade. Awesome. Just curious. Why? I mean that kind of the answer already my head. But I wanna ask you, why not the idea say. Well, you're going there. Okay. But really? So you're gonna call you dock your doctor? Right. And Lyme disease is kind of new to you. And the only reason I feel you would not lean that way, because you're Natura path in, you kinda low more open minded, but why not go to the experts because treatment appears people being denied care. Okay. It doesn't match the model that's currently out there and I realized that early on the model that's currently out there as far as guiding in my opinion. Okay. If our guiding doctors as to how to treat lime didn't match what I was seeing in the patient population as far as what was being offered for treatment, what people how people are being turned away that had obvious symptoms lab results that, you know, that treatment time one of the major differences, I find between the idea say I ladder is treatment time, you know, that, that we treat longer in. We treat until we see symptoms. Coming to a time of being in a place of remission or recovery. And, and many times in the current the current limitations set out by the idea say it's sort of like the well we've treated you for lime. That's it, you're done. And it has to be something else now. And then they have post Lyme syndrome in, you know, if you look at the literature, there, even doctors who are in alignment, more with the conventional model, but they'll say in, you know, instead, he's that, okay? We have the definition of post Lyme syndrome for individuals who pad lime in now have, you know, continued joint pain, headaches fatigue, will, how are we serving that population? You know, that was really important question of somebody who falls more the idea say, model when I was doing research for the book they, you know, like, how do we serve this population? We don't even have they didn't even have guidelines as to how to really serve this population that had all these chronic issues after having line. We label then call it something. But there's really no fall. Oh, through with how to manage care for these individuals. So I think those are some big distinctions in why that model didn't work well for me. And also, you'll find that the islets model is very integrative with natural medicines in weaving that in, and that's a really big part in a really popular part, when you when you go to the conferences in things you see, allow the doctors, the MD's Dios nurse practitioners natural as are all talking about conventional.

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