Listen: 30 Years Since Tiananmen Square: A Human Rights Advocate Reflects
"Thirty years ago today, the Chinese military moved into Tiananmen Square and force to crush the uprising leaving an estimated ten thousand people dead thousands more who were sent to hard labor, re education, camps and today, the memory of. Canon has been largely erased from Chinese society zone. Funk swallow is a human rights activist investor and former student leader during the and square uprising. He was a member of the standing committee of the Beijing students autonomous union in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine welcome to in depth. Does it trouble you? And I'm sure it does that I in China and I was just seeing this on television, the other night, a reporter was asking young Chinese people may be in their early twenties walking in an around, I guess, tenement square if they knew anything about the history of it, they did not. Of course he'd Fossey's such a tragedy in to be here at Capitol Hill. I was just meeting Betsy DeVos, the kind of a tune shit. We receive he states come out so much. When I think about the situation in China, all the people kept in dark and people will weaving to speak improve the. Third. So it's a. I think important date in the contrast, the way three team come to be memory. It. You know, mors talents to human big is that why it's so important to remember, just because it can be a fragile memory for those who don't have you carry it with you. We all know about it, but they have been largely successful in China in expunging it. And that's pretty incredible. You know, thirty years Lee to the imagine. These. Be cool technology and this is reality controlling people's minds. Surgery. So cool all Korea. Yeah. It is important, because we cannot accept to this. This digital sleeper and she seemed propo- teach. And we probably it's not stopping continued folder, fifth, or speak, and major. Police every reaching ever for me today, just moments ago, I got the reports that maybe you interview we miss some on pm censored on YouTube, just for mentioning Mexico. In early team account with censored. I want to do is I want you to take our audience back a bit. You were how old when you were among the students who were planning to protest, which, I presume you had no notion would lead to the kind of violence it led to. Right. Several faces of eight I was on the twenty one year old close. The message was the complete surprise, but even just ten days into the demonstration, April twenty county until you mentioned. He going to kale, but the Seton to Beijing disagree. I such passionate the pro announce on streak off to the editorial was published by been teams the opinion. So then it seems that it unimaginable that such a overwhelming support from all walks of society, including the leader of the communist hard, hit shelves young the himself. You know, the kind of strong public opinion would be overturned Ruto violence in that moment, when you thought you were on the verge of, of changing things in all those people were around you. What did that feel like? Yeah. That's like the most empowering moments our lives full tiny as a whole, you know, that's the most inspiring moment. That's why today, so we brought it to remember. It was, so hopeful democracy was weaving grievance. And it was so peaceful even the police would agree is what's most peaceful, peaceful period in Beijing. Before the magic. You saw you saw. You saw friends of yours die. I felt people die. I, I saw about phobe. Bodies on crumby in basical said, I'll set of the healthy people, the hospital switching hospitable. So over one, we endured as diet that in bobby's outset drunk and the one of the died was Joichi. He was also from my school. She university. He became my brother from that moment. He was about the same age at once. You fool. And full life before that state in the south of their different world. I just would never accepted. I would always be helpful game. But even today after thirty years, he's family. Cool. I contact too often made long search. Yes, the free to talk even in sister in Houston now. They would. Talk about he because implications for the family. Back in China. That's tuition facing. That's why fossil survivors. Could you wrap your head around it at the time that the army was doing that to their own people? No, no. I want. I think we have soak ball about anything else. I that about anything. I just would never accept it at the moment use tank and machine-gun likes that the lose, I will never surrender it such county. You are twenty one what happened to you. Can they after the massacre? I name on the most one the least number five. I would address state after the most one pick least increase in the fall year that would the most difficult time of my life was also a beginning of a new journey. Last thirty"