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Wipe everything that was there before away and start all over again. And of course, that's never actually how at ease. And even when all talking about Mugabe's specifically, you could translate this to you compare this to other other a political revolutions that have happened Ukraine, for example, once the Madan revolution took place, and we we sold the the former President Al stood a Newman put in and everyone had these expectation that everything would be okay now, everything will be on its way to improving that's not how it works because those people can't exist in power for so long without some sort of support network as well. And unfortunately, they're the people who end up sticking around the ones who operate behind the scenes, they pull the strings behind the scenes, and that's why you have these lingering effect of darkness to continue on and on and on and it's much harder to rip away. Those people carries a wide lesson here. About the attention span of the media. Have they done that thing? Have we done that thing? I guess has been suggested of following the story up to a dramatic point at which the, you know, the bad guy gets overthrown replaced by somebody who might be less bad. And therefore, everyone assumes. Oh, well, I'm sure it'll be fine. Well, obviously because that's how I think the media operates. What I'd like to understand from Georgina perhaps is whether she thinks that this is this has reached a crisis point where we will see another moment of media attention where we will be calls for another regime overthrow, and whether this will be another point in the media dynamic where then we'll see in other silence for another year or so until something else like this happens. What's your point of view? You know? I mean, I think overthrows very dangerous look at Iraq. And when you when you compare them, Bob way, pup Stephen Wailer, which is happening up -solutely in parallel. And you see that there is really no up tight from the west to get involved in Zimbabwe. And really why should there's very little to be gained for western countries to be involved in terms of meteoroid tension. I think because Venezuela's happening because Brexit's happening because you have that person in the White House. Attention is is forced to waive from Zimbabwe. Nobody's that interested. Sometimes it does hit the headlines. Unfortunately, it's terrible things. So most recently, it was because there is no there are no credible reports of rapes of children and this. Luckily is now finally getting the attention it needs. It was discussed in in the British house of Commons. The the other day, and the has been very very strong statement from the British government. Also, the UN has talked about it, and the US is talking about it too. But it's just not sexy enough for the British media right now, and it's not really getting much. Action in the rest of the world. And unfortunately, one hates to wish anything terrible anything even more terrible happening in Zimbabwe. But until it reaches the next crunch point, I fear. It is going to drop out of the news. We're we're going to take a short break. Now. You're listening to Madari house with me under along with Kiara Rinella, Georgina Godwin and Ben Ryland coming up next. Why the winner of a struggle is richest literary prize did not turn up to collect the check. The rolling hills of Somerset might not be the most usual spot for well class art space, but it proved to be the perfect fit for housing worth and international calorie with its heart in the countryside, Monaco, films reviews, a weird and wonderful show that looks at our relationship with the land we used to based on on each experience well on that on nature on the other beings that shared will. Now, we've done so I'm trying to in a way reestablish relationship to a form of knowledge that could be useful for some strange fruit. Playing now in the film section at monocle. Don't come..