Laura Kipness, Camille Paalea, Katy Roy discussed on The Ben Shapiro Show
So interesting, and you're doing it as a feminist. And he said, I'd like you to write about that. And that later became my book who stole feminism. So in the book who still feminism. I pointed out that there are these two traditions and that one of them is everyone should be every contemporary American should be an equity feminist and we have pretty good data which shows they are. Most people believe in equal pay for equal work, and they want their daughters and sons to have the same opportunities. So equity feminism, I believe that we owe most women's progress to that. Classical liberal tradition came originally from the European enlightenment. Gender feminism does not come out of the European as such. It's more of a Marxist tradition, conflict theory class struggle. But in this case, gender struggle or now intersectional struck. So I, I just can't view American women as subordinate. I think it's a complicated mix of for men and women of benefits and burdens. I don't think women are oppressed as women more. What do you think gender feminism has gained so much credence and credibility American women are living the best lives. The women who've lived. In the history of the world by a pretty large margin. Why is it that that this sort of toxic feminism to to use as a good Tiga term? Why? Why is it that that has has gained so much ground in the public discourse? Well, as I said, it gained a foothold in the academy and particularly women's studies. So it's sort of a one party system. And if you are a dissident feminist and you could be a feminist, she could be a scholar. You can be a Laura kipness or a Katy ROY fee, Christina numbers, Camille paalea my call, but all of us were have been critical of aspects of radical feminism. Then you become persona non grata. You become part of the problem part of the systemic oppression of women you. You've become an agent of the patriarchy, and they just call you names so you don't get hired your your materials aren't taught. So student cert- we have now, you know, going back twenty years graduates and the more elite. School, the more likely that in their gender studies, you know, they're very adamantly teaching these. These rather extreme theories about women's oppression and they use propaganda foot phony statistics. And so we have lots of young people coming out, becoming bloggers becoming, you know, activists who've never heard the other side. They've read it in their textbooks. They've heard it in there that whole world view was reinforced. Now it's true. They looked at the real world. It doesn't seem to match, but it, you know, it's not majority, majority of students don't become angry feminists but enough do and now they're, they're moving into the into society. What do you think of the idea that this is part and parcel of the hunger for a sense of victimology of it seems to be kind of crossing all political boundaries. A now plies to a lot of people on all sides of the political ally of folks who think that they are victims of foreign trade people, stealing their jobs. You have people who think that they're victims of an overarching, racist American system. And now you have women who, again are living in an extraordinarily PR. Village time by any dimension, any measure and the opportunity rich women in history and then there in, but they've had to come up with some framework in which they are victims. How much of this do you think is actually prosperity eating itself is just a prosperous group of people who've decided that they have to maintain some sense of victimhood in order to give them a sense of purpose in the world. It could be that it's, you know, I don't want to speculate too much about their psychology because I'm just not sure and there, and I even worry about that. Sometimes they were like, why aren't there more dissident scholars like me and it fills me with doubt. I think maybe there's something wrong with maybe maybe I am agent of the patriot, and I'm not saying it as so, then I try to go back and read it and try and think, okay, I've missed something and maybe maybe women really are oppressed and some hidden way that I can't appreciate. Now I've looked pretty carefully as as well as a lot along with a lot of other people at things like the wage gap in the glass ceiling and he just can't help, but see. They're just other reasonable explanations that have nothing to do with discrimination..