Martin, Ethan, Martin Golden Gopher discussed on The Non-Prophets
Thinking maybe this point of view doesn't automatically make you an evil bad person before you even think about it in now. -solutely grades that there are some people that do respond better to that more aggressive sort of style in in in conversation. But i feel like just being continuing to be a good person letting people like that. See you know that. Can you're making all sorts of sense because a lot of times they'll put up a straw man of and you hear this in sermons all the time where they'll say well. This is what your atheist is like. And the first time you actually get to sit down and meet someone or better yet you get to know them you get to like them and respect them and then find out. Oh yeah. I am liberal at or anytime atheist suddenly you take all those conceptions are gone. Because you've gone to realize respect this person person and now they don't fit in that box anymore and it makes you either reevaluate the person or reevaluate your box. And if you have a strong enough with someone. I think that's when we start taking down boxes absolutely not more with what you're saying. I kind of to do with the guys martin i. i'm sorry. I didn't realize i was talking time. Somebody go ahead. Martin golden gopher i'll q. Ethan in the second. I can't hear him. Eaton's mike is not working for us. We'll keep it will move on from there our okay so What was that. What i was gonna say was That's something that i try to do is not you know immediately. Like put labels on myself that the political labels or you know coming out that in on queer or anything when i first meet people and then see if their perception or their approach to me changes at after they find out that i'm a members of you know whatever groups and it's it's always just a little interesting you know but But yeah i completely agree just just in your everyday life. be the best person When i was talking about being aggressive or assertive not so much aggressive. That's more in in regard to debate especially when there's an audience because if you can throw the person that you're you know talking to off guard That can help you know. Kind of reinforce your points if they start to fumble So yeah i completely agree with rudy as far as as far as representing You know what what we want to see cunanan become we should lead by example there in our everyday lives and chiming in real quick on the on. The facts comment on. I completely agree that we shouldn't argue with facts because Generally like when. I argue with facts i mean. We shouldn't lead with them. I guess but generally when people are really entrenched in belief If they lead off with a if you lead off the fact they're just going to immediately reject it based on whatever source it is even if it's a credible source but if you lead off with your argument and why you don't find their argument to be valuable than you can actually have a discussion around that point and then you can maybe later or that will ask you for facts to prove your case but never leave with it because it the they'll just reject it essentially all right. Ethan wrap this up for already halftime and we saw three articles to go so i quick final thought on this topic. Well so for the record. Martin i apologize for cutting you off..