Chris, Papa Phd, UK discussed on Papa Phd Podcast
And who will be recounting how he navigated his transition and how he got to the position. He's in today. But before we go into the interview I, want to quickly share with you what new features you'll be noticing starting today on Papa PhD. The first big change is that the interviews are now going to be shorter around forty minutes and they'll will be published as a single episode on Thursdays. Second you see that I'll be spending more time discussing what my guests do today and what advice they have for you and you'll see. The more we go into the interview, the more value find. So be sure to stick around till the end. And finally, every episode I will have short section at the end where I'll be sharing trails of podcasts I. Think you'll enjoy and that are friends of the show. I hope you enjoy the new format. So without further ADO, here's episode one of the Second Season of Papa. Peachy. Took in the UK. Fifty percent of PhD's Austin and academia three and a half years after they graduate. Busy doing research woke still post some people are doing teaching lecturing and some some are in positions awful. Pitch Dis will be working outside of academia. When you tell that especially like first and second year PhD's they couldn't believe it. It's like mind blowing. You know even when I talk to people and they introduce myself have got PhD and they say. Working oxford-cambridge paged that must be what should have been doing. Welcome to Papa PhD with David. Mendez the podcast where we explore careers in life after Grad, school with guests who have walked the road less traveled and have unique stories to tell about how they made their place in world of constantly evolving rules. Get ready to go off the beaten path and Huchon for an exciting new episode of the PhD. So today on Bob. Peachy I, have with me. Dr, Kris, Humphry. Kris Humphry is a project manager and careers consultant and the founder of the popular careers website jobs on toast. He holds a B A in English studies and an MA in culture and social change both from the University of Southampton. He completed his PhD in Medieval Studies at the University of York in Nineteen Ninety seven and held a postdoctoral fellowship until two thousand. Since, leaving academia Chris has worked as a project and program manager in the private sector specializing in technology transport, financial services, and sustainability. Today he works as a team leader and project manager for a leading European, sustainable. Bank. Chris is passionate about helping people with their careers and Personal Development He has given numerous career stocks at universities in the UK, Ireland Australia and the US. and has taken part in life. Events on the Guardian's website and for jobs dot CO DOT UK amongst numerous other contributions. In Twenty, twelve, Chris founded the website jobs on toast as a way to help masters, students, doctoral graduates, access the abundant opportunities available outside of. Higher. Education. In our long conversation Chris shared his academic journey all the way to the Post Doc. In today's episode I'm sharing with you what came after how and why he started his career outside academia. Welcome to Peachy Chris. Well thank you. David, for inviting me for having me on. I'm really happy to have you here especially given the years of experience you have helping people with masters and Ph ds like just mentioned finding their path and I think a word. That I think is really important is in the abundant number of career opportunities that are out there I think this one key thing that that people are going to. Wealth people need to understand to kind of break this this feeling that they may be failing at life or at least at the their professional life if the. End Up leaving academia after after graduate. School. Yeah it is. It is. So hard to describe when you see the light bulb come on somebody's head in new. People people just say. It. Yeah. And it. It is. What always of joys me on like just when somebody says down they felt or how lost or how they didn't know what to do, and then they say that you I when you're okay now I just. Found the way forward or hope or something you know you just why would why would have stopped? Doing what I'm doing I mean because that's the greatest thing you can do. Even if you change one person's mind or sometimes I talk to one hundred people you know I think if I could. Difference that many people but not like yourself day job what you're doing on your the more that can do it that more intense. We can have and we can reach more people in our own countries or in different languages. or different backgrounds. So yeah, it's it's cool to fail that there's more there's more of us than. Doing this doing this thing. You don't just listen think about being a PhD that just you just have this unique. Bonding Experience With With with anybody else like I just met you but you know it just. It's strange. We everyone knows what they went through, and then just you can just click with people and. It's powerful as powerful stuff. So as I mentioned, we talked before about Chris's PhD and you can find our full one hour and a half conversation on the Papaya she youtube channel. We eventually also talked about what led up to his post doc. Chris. Was Now considering after his post doc and after the his after applying to some lecturing positions and not having the materialize thinking. Okay. What am I going to do an end looking at the non-academic landscape and seeing where he was going to fit? How did you go about that? Were there appears around you who were also having that reflection. How. Was that process? How easy was that process or not easy? I was that that. Exploration. Let's say. He is kind of mixed because I think on the one hand. As I kept getting rejections from the academic jobs, Kinda go to feeling of. Like feeling of running out of time or this is this isn't going well. If I could just get academic job everything would be. Okay. So that was like a downside to it but on the other hand you know. I was really excited by the things that I was saying around me like like the Internet was something that was just really taking off in the late ninety s and I was just fascinated by the internet and this whole and. I mean I. I say Democratic Dissemination of information which is. Not. Disney triple the time easily, but the way. To access to information or study or learning the United. States can be quite elitist or privileged or and causal money and time, but just like the idea that. The anybody can just access any type of information videos and things as well. It was coming along time and could learn anything. They had the Internet connection did just Exchange. My view of the world and so excited me as an educator and as a scholar, this potential and always really enthused by that and could see this trans transformative potential of it and so that's when I kind of thought. Well, this could be an area where. You I would be happy and excited to work in, and then I had to try and figure out. Well, how do I get to that from medieval studies? kind of like the opposite. Of this new of this new techy technological thing..