Officer, John Reichert, Aaron Gibson discussed on Weekend Edition Saturday


Since nineteen ninety nine in this blessed America, there are no more than twice, as many suicides in the United States has homicides. Many involve drugs, drinking or depression, losing a job, a loved one or stress but experts say there is no one two or ten causes have story today to begin a series of reports about some of the people touched by suicide. Hello there. All right. Thanks. A new shift begins at Chicago's northside, fourteen at least Louis uniform should under bright white lights to hear the latest alerts about robberies and other crimes. I eight six you. Thank you guys work. Other Dan brand police department. Chaplain speaks soft, you're coworker needing, help don't hesitate show. All right. God bless you work. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you. Seven Chicago police officers have taken their own lives in the past twelve months. Other Branco's out to crime scenes station houses. If officers feel the need to talk to appreciate if not a therapist across the country. At least one hundred fifty nine officers died by suicide in twenty eight you know, there is a nationwide statistic, you may be aware of says, father brand that police officers twice as likely to take his or her own life as they are to be killed by an aggressor which if you let that sink. Yeah. That's an alarming statistic. We've met with the group before women from different parts of America who care, a solemn sorrow h was married to a police officer who took his life. Christian Clifford's husband was officer, Stephen Clifford of the national county New York police. They just got the puppy. They look forward to having children one day and may twenty seventeen he wasn't responding to her text messages. So she drove home and I went inside, and I saw on a bunch of no. On his police identification, his driver's license everything lead out, very neatly methodically. And I ran down the hallway to our bedroom, and the door was closed, and it was a note on it. That said, I did it do not enter call nine one malicious Wales was married to officer David Swail for the Los Angeles Police Department. They had four sons David Swailes had symptoms of post traumatic stress from his time in the US navy and their youngest son's second birthday, elicits Wales came home and found her husband behind their bathroom door. I remember just screaming over and over. I can't I can't. I can't Aaron Gibson was married to sergeant Clinton Gibson of the liberty lake Washington. Police. They were high school sweethearts the head for children that even register in my mind that Clinton was dead. Nothing makes sense after that. So the cold record had recently married officer, John Reichert of the Asheville North Carolina police, he was a recovering alcoholic, but he drank the ninety two his life. She got a phone call from one of his lieutenants, and he goes, well, John is gone, and it appears to be self inflicted. And I said, what are you talking about the night before? John and I talked about going to his concert for his favorite band him getting another tattoo. The women were drawn together over the internet because of the law, they so intimately share. They say their husbands felt more and more strain on the job police. No. They're not popular in many communities. The national conversation about race in policing has put their actions, under constant scrutiny that man slowly became a different person because of the work that day to day interaction of people yelling at him and calling him names and throwing things at him malicious Wales, says her husband would go from one call to the next one crime or trauma to another than watch video from his body Cam at night. Not only did you experience, Dave, and your re-experience. It unloading at all. And I remember thinking. Looking at this man thinking, I don't know how you can do this and sadly. After so much time. He couldn't Aaron Gibson had to leave her husband because of all the pain he turned on himself. He's under so much stress at work. So whenever he was home. He was drinking. He drank drank drank until he passed out, and I have memories of film, pacing the floors, just pacing pacing, pacing back and forth. It was frightening. He never talked to anyone including me about it. And that was the problem. Kristen Clifford and her friends say, their husbands all put on masks to go to work. He was the joke star. He was the happy one. I was just getting messages from one of his co workers, how they still talk about him and how much they miss him because he was just always making them laugh are all our husbands were like there's certain personality. I think it takes to do that job. They're very service oriented people, I think, to begin with, with discuss privately like a lot of our husband did suffer a lot of childhood trauma, that I think lead them to have a good childhood. Right. They want to help families. John put everyone else first police officers. Ultra have the means to end their lives. At their fingertips. Their husbands used to go to use their service weapons. If they had to wait and figure out a way. Maybe they would have changed their minds, but it's right there. And as a mother of four boys that scares me, because our children are more according to research, more likely device lewisite. So that's always kind of in the back of my mind, because, of course, we're all human, we're going to have those stark times stark moments. But. Would rather my kids learn to reach for a phone or feature something else. Instead of, but they say many police officers won't talk to accounts, their therapist apprec-, even when encouraged by their departments Melissa Wales, says when she suggested it to her husband, remember, he looked at me and said, are you crazy? I go to them. Not only could I lose my job. I'm going to never promote other gonna bench me, not to mention my colleagues might my brothers. They're gonna look at me as a liability. Nobody's gonna wanna work with me through their loss and grief. The women have grown to feel police commanders should speak openly about their own metal struggles and encourage officers to seek regular metal counseling. They're all struggling sorry. But anyway, any hall says they're not? They're lying to themselves like they're all dealing with something. Right. So if they make it a normal thing in, it's okay to talk about it, then then they would all talk about is like you would go qualify, right? All of our husbands had to qualify monthly to, to shoot. You maybe that's just a normal thing, not because you're no, you're not fit for duty. It's just because it needs to become a normal part of their culture, and their routine, and their daily weekly you, you know, I I've now receive services from the police department but I'm just like gosh darn it it should be it should have been you before fringe of spoken checked on each other every day for two years. But this was the first time they'd ever actually met the Mark v. Where.

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