Tommy John, Iowa, John Greenwald discussed on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory
Welcome back John Greenwald junior with us your phone calls as well. John. There's no question this probably an apparent government cover up here to hold back on disclosure, in your opinion. Why why aren't they letting us know what's going on? It's a hard one. I this isn't a popular answer. But I it's one that I lean towards and that is that the government doesn't have anything to disclose because they are clueless. They don't know. Exactly. What's there? There is no collusion because that's a popular, you know, a theory behind it. But I think they might be confused as as you, and I are on on what ultimately is going on in the skies. I think that's a possibility. I'm not saying that that is exactly how I feel. But I think that that in itself if it were true is threat to national security because the implication behind the United States being clueless is is fairly detrimental to our society. That's scary. It is that exactly it, and I believe that plays a role in potentially that true national security threat that number one. This is a phenomenon that we cannot control. We don't understand and we can't combat. And I think that that that really is out of everything that I've seen and and have researched. That's what I lean towards because I think that you know, when you get into the intelligence of a civilization that can traverse the stars. And you know that you have to bring up the debate. Would they communicate with us what they cared a communicate with us what they care that. We're even here. I mean, there's so many different questions that we have to tackle when answering that and I think it's a in my opinion, very egotistical way of thinking that they would wanna come down here and save us and save humanity. Because to be honest with you, it's the same. It's it's the same notion that we would go into the middle of the Sahara desert, and, you know, put up a ten foot wall around anthill to make sure that nothing attacks that little until sadly, humans aren't like that they they don't plant a flag and try and communicate with the ants. There's very select few. You that are interested in studying the ants I happen to be one of them. I find them fascinating. But other than that. It's just not how intelligence works, and we are closer to an aunt when it comes to intelligence than it would be between humans and something let's say one hundred thousand or even a million years more advanced than in two questions here. And who believes that benevolence comes with, you know, great age in great knowledge, that's not necessarily the case of anything. They know that it's easier to pilfer. Earth's and planets that have you know, humans or beans that are inferior to them. That's right. Yeah. One of the last shows I did for history channel was on this very topic. And it was exploring that if aliens were to come here, and they potentially were aggressive. How would they destroy us? And why and what I did was explored. The reasons why when it came to survival. If you Manitou was able to leave the earth which one day, we will have to do whether it's tomorrow next month next year next millennia, we're going to have to do it because our planet will end. So if we one day do that, and it comes to the survival of the human race, and we approach another planetary body or planet or whatever. And there's life on it. In order for us to survive. We have to potentially harm or kill that life form that is lesser than us when it comes to intelligence what we do it in. My opinion. Yes, we would. And that is the reality of what we're looking at what I did. And the show is explored. Why a intelligent civilization just wouldn't care if they destroyed something because the reality that the moment humanity learns that aliens are out there. Just one of the minute. We may contact the odds that is the only civilization in in the universe is is pretty nil. And why I bring that up as it's that Amtel analogy again that one anto is one out of hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of ants and colonies, and so on that are just on this planet, let alone in the universe. So if they are there, then there are millions of civilizations there and them wiping out just one in order to survive. I don't think is out of the question because I think humanity would do it. They probably have done it before. I would I would guess. Yeah. I absolutely guess that what about the abduction phenomenon. John what you're taking? That's an interesting one it it's one that is intriguing. It's but admittedly, it's not one that I focused on. I mean, I've talked to a lot of people who have had those experiences. I have a lot of questions, but to be honest with you have always felt that I just don't have the the psychological background to really understand and grasp it, and again, I'm not saying that it's a psychological issue. But what I'm saying is to explore it an ultimately comprehended. I really don't thing to be honest with you. Let's go to the phones here for your George in Saint Louis. Welcome to the program, George. Go ahead. Get started. The money jar. Here's here's what I don't understand of for for observers on earth to see the beginning of the universe. That means light travels at a certain speed that means for us to be food vision and states, the beginning of the universe names that space had to be bent. Us go faster than the speed of light. Telescopes to see the next fifteen billion years now how how have have aliens solve the problem of bending space. The the anyone ever questioned that I think so I the first part if I understood you correctly, I don't I don't think you necessarily have to bend space to see light from fifteen million light years away or or whatever it is. It's just that's traveling at the speed of light. That's what what happens the second part of your question. I think that that is. The debate about all of this that that would do have to if you're talking about humans. You have to bend space and time because humans can't survive as your way. No, right. So but take it to the next step. What if and this is a fascinating topic and the show itself that there's a lot of speculation in the scientific community that the biological selves that we are today, the biological beings that make us human. We are starting to merge with computers were starting to merge with machines. Now, not trying to make this all Sifi on you. But that is the reality of what we're we're going towards, and there's government research, and I've got a lot of foia requests open on this. And I've gotten a lot of documents on it on implanting chips in the brain to control mechanical extensions of our biological self. And so one day, it's not just going to be an arm or a leg that were interfacing with the brain. And it could potentially be entire body and the minute you do that the minute you then interface into entirely being mechanical that brings up a whole separate debate. But the minute you merge into a machine like artificial intelligence time as relevant then you can travel the stars at the speed of light or even before it because time is relevant. The only thing the only reason time means something does if we're biological, and we die, you know. I mean, that's that's really it in the terms of of the cosmos and the universe. It becomes a relevant, and if we were achieve that, it's terrifying notion, but if we were to achieve that that brings up a whole new world so to speak on how we traverse the stars. And that's not me just being crazy. That is a big topic of debate by people much much smarter than me thinking that if we contact aliens one day because a lot of the scientific community does not. I believe we have yet. But if we do it will be with a machine, and it is a fascinating debate. And it's not one that you hear about all the time. John did you come across any documents about the UFO's trying to shut down our nuke missile sites? Yeah. Yeah. And and there are quite a quite a few instances where you have not only the shutting down of nuclear sites, but I've devoted a whole chapter of it in the bottom of of incursions on nuclear installations. So they're seemingly seems to be a an attraction between whatever this phenomena is and nuclear installations, I actually approached it trying to disprove it. But the reality is like especially through the nineteen seventies. There were a lot of UFO sightings that we're seeing in and around these bases with our most powerful weapons and again alien or not it doesn't matter that proves beyond any shadow of doubt. There is a threat to national security. No question on cherry to the to the company line. But there's absolutely documented threat next up. Let's go to baileigh in the Moines. Iowa welcome to the program Bailey. Hi, Debbie with us. Go ahead. Okay. So I was wondering I watched the movie the fourth kind and I've seen it before. But I just I mean, we were talking about this. I was just listening on it. And I was wondering what his opinion would be on all the footage and recordings from that movie and Abigail Tyler. I'll be honest with you. I'm not real familiar with the movie about all the currencies that happened in normal noble. Ask right. It's very it's a frightening. Frightening case, I'm not sure that those are I think that are probably more Hollywood to tell you the truth. But we don't program like that might be worthy of doing another one on that. I'm not so sure whatever happened to these people John something happened. But nobody really knows exactly what it is. It could be ET related. I I'll definitely have to check it out. I wish I had a better answer for you. But I honestly have not seen a great movie though. Great movie, if you're in the something that's a little edgy and scary. That's that's my middle name. Let's go to Robert and fort, Madison, Iowa, first-time caller. Hi, robert. How you doing? Okay, sir. Thank you. Yes. I wanted to tell you about the flow. You have both up not bother in the great book of Ezekiel and the bible written to two thousand years. For price. Walk the earth. You can read Ezekiel describes circular tedium not part will they're five six year old came down. He said Holly polish wrong degree, and they had faces in them. And each time. They turned the all time to same just like a spaceship. Of course, they had they landed up in them over to Israel and the lamp and showed them how wicked was and when he let him down. He could sell them in write this down. But he scribe I mean, he'd be -scribed to the hills spaceships when they landed they turned when I go up and down a move, and so two r fought with carrying his throne, and that's not a spirit that needs to travel somehow, and you know, man, went to the moon, and he thinks you know, or. So far behind. You're breaking up on us. At the end, Biblically speaking, John lots of great UFO cases in the bible. Yeah. Funny. Quick story is back when I first started. I was in high school as you mentioned earlier. And in one of my religion, classes, it was a Catholic high school. We did a kind of debate a debate exercise, and I brought up could we do, you know, UFO's and potential references to aliens in the bible, and they agreed to let me do it. And we actually won the debate. If you can believe it on our side 'cause we explored those bible versus I'm not saying that that's what is in the bible. What what I am saying? There's an enough to reference in there that makes you kinda curious what exactly it is? Because we were going into some of the scriptures that talked about flying scrolls. And we kinda compared that and contrasted to people talking about cigar-shaped UFO's nowadays, the buzzword is the tic TAC you up all of which are the exact same shape. In the sky. But the descriptions go back to how they can describe it at the time it was written. So we pulled a bunch of versus out of the bible that explained it and at a Catholic high school. I'm not sure how much that went over very well. But who like I said we won the debate. I was pretty proud about it. Let's go to Cornelius and Alexandria, Louisiana. Hello there, sir. Oh, Jordan, Don. I was just telling Tommy John that we had a guest a UFO siding in a place called MAC initially. We and our news director, Al quarter Monsef will coast to coast needs to hear about that. So.