JOE, United States, Charleston discussed on The Community Cats Podcast


Designing and launching no kill Charleston in 2015, Joe led Charleston county to become the first no kill community in the southeast. This three year initiative was achieved in its first year in 2013. In 2015, Joe organized a statewide initiative, no kill South Carolina to build the first no kill state in the south and much of the United States. Having served as chief executive of 5 nonprofit organizations in COO of a national nonprofit Joe has spent much of his life defending and caring for the most vulnerable among us, abused children at risk youth disaster victims, members of the U.S. armed forces, war refugees and prisoners of war, victims of HIV aids and animals. Joe led the effort to pass the first felony animal cruelty law in the U.S. possessions and disaster recovery efforts in 18 hurricanes and he has managed multiple other crises currently. The Charleston area has experienced 7, continual years of presidentially declared disasters and or emergencies. Born and raised in the Deep South Joe is an engineering alumna of the university of Alabama and Joe has been recognized by the governors of Washington and the Virgin Islands and has received the American Red Cross Tiffany award for management excellence and was awarded the U.S. Department of Defense medal for his work in America's first Persian Gulf conflict. Joe was named one of 9 Maddie's heroes. For inspirational and innovative leadership in its 2015 inaugural class, Joe, I'd like to welcome you to the show. Thank you. Thank you, Stacy. I'm really happy to be here. Yeah, so with everything that I just read in your bio, first and foremost, the most important thing all of our listeners want to know about is how did you become passionate about cats? Well, I think as you mentioned, worked with a variety of vulnerable populations. I mean, really, when we say vulnerable populations, populations that are innocent, bullied, so to speak. So, you know, whether their children, whether they are refugees, whether they are disaster victims, meaning bullied by both natural inmate disasters, and it led me to really look at animals. Finally, as perhaps one of the most bullied of our living creatures. And that goes for dogs and cats, of course. And so I just started gravitated over towards that. And not meaning that other populations, human populations don't have needs or anything like that. It's just that, you know, and we all know this with animals. Animals can not speak for themselves. By federal law, property. And are just in such a vulnerable position. And yet we have so many solutions that can remove them from being so vulnerable and certainly remove them from being collectively and summarily put down or euthanized in many places in the country. So you've worked for many organizations, animal, welfare groups right here, as well as what we call people groups, right? What has your experience been in the nonprofit space? Are there differences between organizations like a Red Cross or a human service based organization versus an animal welfare organization? Have you seen substantial differences between those two models? I think probably yes and no. Yes, in terms of the differences. I think that it's on when we're working with humans. We can converse much more effectively with humans. Whereas animals, we can't. And then with humans, humans come with fundamental rights by law. Animals don't, for the most part. And so those are some of the big differences. However, one of the big similarities is that we're all serving people in the way I look at it, and we look at it here, Charles and animal side is that we don't serve animals, and we serve people. There's a person behind every animal, and we're trying to translate that person's care and concern for the animal. Into action. Lifesaving action in many cases. Now, sometimes you'll have the occasional person that's calling about the neighbor's dog barking, they can't get any sleep, but that kind of thing. Well, this person doesn't care for the Apple, but they're concerned about the animal, right? But that's a big similarity is that we don't serve animals. Animals are beneficiaries, realizing that there is a person behind every animal and stomach animal control is out there just warming the streets and picking up stray animals. It's typically someone has called to prompt them to go out there and do that. And good samaritans are constantly bringing in kittens and other animals because they care. So we may think about serving the animal, but really it's that person that we're serving. And I think that goes a long way when we're talking to decision makers and policy makers to create public policy. But in terms of managing the two, I really think there's so much similarity between managing a private nonprofit and a private for profit. I've managed both. And it really is all about cash flow. Day in and day out. I think that's kind of gives us a leg up in terms of management in the animal world because animal flow goes hand in hand with cash flow. And we know we know the more we raise the more we save and if we're not saving the animals, then the cash flow is not going to be there, folks, we're not going to be not going to be confident in us. But if we get positive cash flow and positive animal flow, both going in the same direction, then that's a recipe for thriving. For the animals to thrive for the organization to thrive for the mission threat. Tell me a little bit about what life is like for community cats in South Carolina and feel free to tell me like what it was like before you launched the no kill campaign, no kill Charleston, 2015, no kill South Carolina. And then where we are today. I'd be really interested to know sort of the history of what's life like for those community cats. You know, it's just different. And you and your listeners are going to know this. Where there are good, solid bona FIDE trap new to return or trap back to mid all to return strategies. Those communities are going to see much, much higher live release rates of cats and thriving communities thriving colonies, so to speak. But it's going to be spotty. And so when you ask about South Carolina, it's spotty across South Carolina. What we have seen across South Carolina dough is the communities, rank and file that have solid meaning enough decent volume TNR.

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