Matthew Anderson, Marcus, Oklahoma discussed on Native America Calling

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That aspect too about protecting on your feet because that's what they're therefore so that we can move the many miles that we need to Or you know the duration of standing in in in certain places or on certain Environments is really important in Matthew. The things that you described that go into other materials four or MOCCASINS That also talks about the environment that we're living in we know that many of us faced Moments in our communities immunities were. We were forced to go somewhere else or move away from places that Where we rooted from and that caused change that causes causes to adapt matthew any thoughts on the history or just kind of the evolution on how moccasins are made or the way communities adapted or are made even reviving those pathways to get some of those materials. Anything you WANNA share about that. It's remarkable in that where our our people were. Originally from in the southeast woodland's we have much of the same environment here in northeastern Oklahoma The white tailed deer Are are also available here So we have not really had to change much in the way of materials serials Because practice the same things that we did in the ancient date We know that in order for us to to survive we must I take care of Our surroundings our nature the natural resources. Those things are what's important not only to us but also to future generations in knowing we have not Go ahead no no go ahead finish. We've we've not. We've not really had to Adapt too much on on materials and so one of the things that we do here at the Churchyard Center and as we try to find resources that were available to the ancient peoples And and stress the importance of preserving those things keeping them alive If you find a plant or an animal that is Becoming scarce you don't just respect that You you help it survive in so matthew win you think of this process. What is it that you really feel is being passed on when somebody teaches somebody else how to make moccasins? Yes I think it's our identity. It's it's who we are it's the soul of the ancestors Because teaching these things that are elders have passed on to us. We are not only Connecting to our past. But we're building a bridge to the future very Nice Matthew. Think you for sharing that Matthew Anderson with us today from Teluk while Oklahoma a a cultural specialist for the Cherokee Arts Center also a citizen of the Cherokee nation. If you'd like to share some thoughts with him give us a call. One eight hundred nine six two eight need for eight. Is the number Also here in Studio forty-nine with us is jess at sea as well as Melissa Sanchez. And so ladies hearing hearing the way Matthew connects to this especially the site of making the moccasins and passing that information on There's a lot there and just want to give you a moment to reflect on what what you heard him say. What do you mean you think of? Just go ahead I come from a background of four straight and I think it is. What he's saying is important about You know preserving the resources that we have out there to carry on our tradition as far as you know animals Even plants that we have that grow in certain regions that were from and make sure that they don't go extinct and we still have those materials to move on with our culture tradition. I think that's very very important. So related related to that a lot coming from a background. And what do you think about. I'm passing on the tradition of making moccasins. Are there a lot of people who are in line to do this or or is this a part of some of the dialogue that we hear of the need for cultural revitalization. What do you think just? I think it's very important to win when that is passed on. It's a it's not just oh I made Marcus. Interior go on pessimists on it comes with a lot of Like I said earlier. Going back to uh-huh the animal that it came from you know with a moment. The men go hunting. The purpose of the animal provides for us. And it's a whole tradition. The you're passing onto from a man to a young boy. That's gone hunting for the first time in what he can use an animal for making moccasins and are in Laguna Guna The most of the men are the ones that made the moccasins for the ladies. So I feel that is important as young men. I mean as well as today he has woman can make them also but I feel that A lot we have a cultural enrichment classes in Laguna Pueblo. That are from pottery moccasins making even traditional foods I feel a lot of we already know that we need to preserve these Things about our culture to keep moving forward as people in a be resilient. So that's what comes to mind when and you know I hear you know Marcus and making our pets and Donna and comes with a lot of other stuff. Not Just Marcus and making it for me. When I think of Mockus in making being I think of the people because you know there were certain people growing up whoever would run to to get their shoes from And and the stories that went along with that or even today when we're together in our community and we are wearing traditional clothing a lot of times there's that moment where You know between taking basket somewhere or cooking or or or moving through the community through dances. There's that moment where you finally sit down and sometimes you look around and you start. Seeing people wearing their traditional shoes or footwear. And you think about you know where those came from and a lot of times that dialogue will come. We're that golden question who made your shoes and and thinking of you know who did this I think of you know many different individuals where people say That the fight them up by who was somebody in my own community that People you know that's where they got their shoes from the went to this elder and The new you know about people's feet about the the right shape and how to make take Are Different moccasins. And that's what I think of a lot of times when when I see you know different people Where they're they're they're in it's hard? I'm having a hard time because I want to call them die Kafka's that's what it is to me but moccasins and I think of Other nations especially beadwork beautiful beadwork and love and energy that goes into that Even speaking about the identity not of the patterns the colors it some people you can look at somebody's moccasins and know what clam they're from or even what family there from by a beadwork stitch and there is so much there and we know you have part of the story to go ahead and share it with us. We're going to pause here for a moment but we'll keep these as phone lines open for you. One eight hundred nine six two eight four eight is a number we look forward to hearing from you go ahead give us a ring support for journalism that raises the awareness of child wellbeing to citizens. and to policymakers provided by the Annie Casey Foundation building a brighter future for children children families and communities information at eighty. 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