Kirsten Johnson, Dick, Dick Johnson discussed on Filmspotting



But I think it also ultimately adds to the appreciation again to their bravery. And Just the things that they're they're willing to even talk about in candid conversations together. I. Mean What a wonderful relationship these to have and what lake courage it took to to face that. So they can enjoy that relationship and maybe that's the Cathartic point to me is is to inspire me to be more head on and to pursue those conversations even with my own grandfather and. To not brush off when he opens up with a vulnerable statement like that. But to to pursue it further and ask you know why are you feeling that way? What's causing you to feel that way? Even if he might not remember, we had that conversation even if he might get confused with. Another grandchild or or or someone the next time I see him So in that way I I'm finding the film inspiring to. So maybe that's too much of a personal reaction I I I'm just trying to I've been trying to process it since I watched it within my own reality and I think it's it's just it's kind of a miracle of a movie in what it does. So creatively with an experienced, that is you know tragically kind of mundane I mean. So many families are experiencing something like this and Kirsten Johnson and Johnson have been able to make something miraculous out of that. Yeah. Maybe the only silver lining that. I could think of it occurs to me as you recount your personal angle with this film of having three grandparents die before you were even born is that I never had the opportunity to actually have to suffer through. Yeah. Some of these types of life events, these very difficult life events, but that doesn't mean I can't relate still to what I'm seeing on screen in. So many different ways including just thinking of it in terms of that word gift that you said, this movie is a gift to us in a lot of ways I definitely think of it as a gift to Johnson herself and I think that's one largely bestowed on her by her father. If you really read between the lines, I don't think it's ever a matter of him. Really feeling like this endeavor is all worth Orleans a lot of fun but what does it do? It allows him to spend time with her. Yes that's all he wants to do. So that's the gift coming from him, and also it's a gift for Johnson as she does state. She didn't have this opportunity to film her mother, but more things got that. This amazing life and this amazing relationship she had with her as well and yet all she has is the footage she shot that you see in camera person and even seeing that though brought her back to life I think those are the words. Johnson uses so. This project of capturing him still when he's relatively vital and having more to latch onto to kind of bring him back to life. Even before he's gone I completely understand why she's doing that. But I'll also say where it has that personal angle for me and where she is giving a gift to him even beyond the time she's spending with him is how often do you hear people say and I certainly had this feeling when my dad passed away I. Wish I had honoured him like this when he was alive. I said the things I said at the eulogy to him when he was actually here and watching these where she gets to. Actually verbalize and sometimes visualize how she feels about him. That's that's the stuff that someone migos oh. Yeah I missed I missed my opportunity just like you missed it Kirsten Johnson with your mother I missed out on that right so in some ways hopefully, it inspires you to then not miss those opportunities as you as you move forward. Now I will say that my reaction to the film and I agree with you across the board I also think of it as kind of a miracle of a movie. I, was surprised in maybe a little disappointed. that the death scenes themselves didn't tie back more directly to Dick Johnson or Kirsten Johnson in terms of his fears in terms of their kind of mutual and individual concerns. There are some hints of it here and there, but they did feel a little random to me in a way that I didn't expect considering considering the killing by dad over and over again conceit at least the movies packaged and is even presented by her within the movie itself. Well, that's I. think that's part of the distraction element. I was talking about it allows them to make fun of death by having by staging air conditioning unit falling from a building on top of him and killing him. Jump out of my seat complete. Yeah I mean. They're using stuntman as I said, like fake blood they really get into this and and I do think the reason it might be so unrelated to what he's actually facing is because it gives them a chance to sort of, as I was saying address it and not address it, address it from a a certain remove and and there's a dark humor to those scenes to right their comical away and in that sense yes. Some of it more than others I should. Say the one of him falling down the stairs. That's more real to life right? That's something that you can see happening. So that strikes a little more closely to home but the the other one of like a construction worker turning a corner from a building and wacky him in the head with with a beam that's like almost slapstick and it is, and so I think that's where they kind of get to have a sense of that distance a sense of that. Dark humor and there's there's a catharsis to that I think that that does work fairly well for me and it also stands in nights contrast maybe even contrast but BA leads nicely into the fantasy sequences which also have a comical stream to them. Yeah and I I think that they work the fantasy sequences especially in that they do tie back more clearly to father and daughter and watching Dick Joy in those. Such a major part of the joy of watching this movie overall in addition to just some of the pleasure that comes from seeing how these moments are rendered on screen a figure dancing, and hovering in the air suspended as if in super slow mo or sort of just caught for eternity there for us to observe the entire holy holy sequence with Jesus washing his feet is another one that I will vividly recall. Right but yeah, we we have to. Give the context to that too though is that we learn early on that he dick was born with basically deformed toes. He doesn't have full toes. He's all he says he's always been ashamed of it and so when they recreate these fantasy visions of heaven, you see Jesus washing his feet and there's a cut and she explains this to him you know. So he fully understands that there's a cut and his feet are restored and that's just I mean. It's like this thrilling vision of restoration there, and there's a connection to when we see the two figures dancing. Wearing. These on their faces are these poster sized photos of Dick and his wife from their youth and so there obviously representing them and what do you notice Adam the male dancer barefoot and you know it's it's that that's where like. It's just so full hearted this movie as well. That's right. Yeah. That's what I was getting at in terms of those sequences really tying back to those characters in a simple but profound way and I think overall what I'm getting at is that I may be hoped or maybe just. Convince myself coming in that the death scenes and the fantasies might offer some bigger break through some kind of a Pitney or or even conflict for father and daughter to process in some way rather than it feeling like a conceit to provide a framework for the project and it's entirely possible. Josh that if I watched it again, I would see more of that wouldn't feel that way. But that all said I'm I'm really grateful. It did provide the framework for the project I think everything you're saying about it being a distraction in many ways is really valid but whether it's through the stage sequences or it's just the mechanism of..

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