Jeff Kobe, Rabbi Joseph Potasnik, Journalism Award discussed on Katz's Corner
Welcome back. I'm Rabbi Joseph Potasnik. And I'm never Naor. Bernard. Reverend, We are privileged One begin, uh, have Jeff Kobe as our guest today, and you know that Jeff has a very distinguished background Resume went to George Washington University. Gotta lie degree from Boston University. But what impressed me the most, and I'm a reader of many of his columns and I urge people subscribe. To get his columns is that he was the first recipient off the Eric Bryan del Journalism Award. Um, and I remember Eric Grindle well, because he was a New Yorker wrote for the Post New York Post. And always had Avery. I would say a creative I was able to find something in the new something on an issue that many of us would not see. So it's a great honor to have Jeff with this. Good morning, Jeff. Good morning. Thanks again for having me on. It's great to talk to both of you. Ah, Jeff, Of course, If you had white heat it a few years to get that award. It would have been 20,000 instead of 10,000. But, hey, yeah, well, you know, I haven't had much luck in the stock market either. Yeah, Yeah. Bye. Hi. And hello together of rabbis, and I think whoever contest the same thing is true for Members of other denominations. The pulpit has become a very difficult place in which to preach because it involved in issues of the day and you know you don't Endorses candidate. People know when you're talking about the issue where you're leading And here you are trying to bake congregation together as a cohesive unit. Talk about you know how we can disagree, and I'll be disagreeable. All of that. At the same time. You know, If you take a certain position, you're going to alienate a segment of your congregation, and that may result in a fragmented congregation. You may loosen. What do you do? I mean, it's a little different than journalism. But what do you do? Well, listen, if you think it's hard to preach from the pulpit, you ought to try preaching from the op ed page. You know where the where the repercussions can be a lot more ferocious and where, you know, at least when you preach from the pulpit. You probably don't get it. Flooded with which responses and email and phone calls from parishioners telling you with a lot of four letter words, you know what what rotten people you are and how they never wanna, you know. Have you darken their doorstep again? And how you know they think that you're the worst. You know the worst person imaginable. The media opinion writers get that kind of stuff all the time, and I assume it's true for my colleagues to lean to the left as it is for someone like me who leans to the right. It's just become poisonous and polarized and toxic and angry. And I think Americans in so many different venues, whether there reading the newspaper or watching TV, or, you know, going to church or synagogue and listening to a sermon. Have have are losing the ability to to be able to disagree without being disagreeable to hear something that they don't agree with, without assuming the worst about the person who's expressing it. You know, I'm I'm orthodox, and I will say that, at least in my experience in Orthodox synagogue, you can not to hear sermons that are overtly political. Andi. I'm glad. I'm glad for that. I think that would be very little support. If the rabbi of my synagogue would get up and start giving sermons. About, you know, abortion or tax policy or who to vote for in the election. Hey, steers completely clear of that. And for you know, for the in the decades that I've been, you know, going Tio services at unorthodox jewel. The rabbis have generally steered clear of that. But I know that that's not the case in many houses of worship, and it's certainly not the case in the rest of society, and I got to tell you, I just feel more more disheartened these days when I see how How? Ah, we seem to have lost the ability to be able to argue in good faith. You know, sir, General Yeah, that was you brought up you brought up, you know Houses of worship, And you know, Rabbi talked about from the pulpit and interesting study was done by both George Bonner. On the Pew Research back into a 16 on they're engaged in another study in 2020 as to congregants and whether they work. Their clergy person to weigh in O R not and a A large percentage of parishioners want their clergy person. To opine to help them understand, especially to the ends of their faith, the political landscape but not tell them who to vote for, so we have people leaving churches was another article that was done. People are leaving churches because their clergy person is not weighing in some way to just help them understand what's going on. Absolutely true. And it's also true, you know, not only churches but in synagogues. Ah, you know, I I have I have one friend who for many years attended a prominent reform synagogue here in the Boston area and that synagogue became more and more political and more more left wing. My friend finally decided that he just could not stand it anymore And, you know,.