Listen: Pistons, Basketball, Tim Duncan discussed on The Lowe Post
"All star one. All NBA appearance. Here's a question. Let's step back for a second and ponder this philosophical matrix. What is a hall of Famer? Like if we just threw out the idea that well, if you get twenty thousand points, if you finish the twenty ten, I was trying to come up with this because you sent me this list of names and my eyes are glazing over as I'm going through basketball reference. And I'm starting to think like for some of these guys it the numbers alone don't don't tell enough of a story. And so I was trying to figure out like, what, what does it mean to be a hall of Famer? Like what? What should we define it as in the abstract? And I think it's that you can't tell the story of a specific era, an era, maybe five years, maybe ten without that player, that that players essential to the story of that era. That's one way of looking at. This, I like that. And by that standard. Carmelo, Anthony, even if you don't like the fact that he hasn't task all, but even if you didn't like that, he doesn't pass the ball or he didn't play defense or that he didn't get the Knicks anywhere or that they missed four straight playoff runs or Mr.. Whatever you might say about him, criminal. Anything's essential to defining that era and put up numbers, right? You can't say like Nick young, somebody might say, well, he was like, we'll never forget what he did with the Lakers because if heavily heavily featuring a project I'm running next week, that's hall of fame related. So there are characters that we could say helps define an era, but you're not in on on being a character alone is what I'm saying. Just like a quick little asterisk there to to help define this. But you can't tell the story of a certain era without Dwight Howard and the dominant runs in Orlando and taking them to the finals besides and we're gonna get Cianci later. You can't tell the story of that era without those pistons teams going back to just do the pistons. Now you brought it up. The pistons have that that pistons that made six straight conference finals. One of my favorite teams has no hall of famers. I wonder if the most likely outcome is that they finished with no hall of famers if you had to pick one, and there are four guys that people will make arguments for that are core members of that pistons seem apologies details on prince. If you had to pick one, who do you who either either who you think should or does that'll pick pick whatever your senators who gets in if you had to pick one? Because I think they might get zero for a while and then someone will get in later, which by the way brings up one of my other hall of fame rants. You're either enter your out. Yeah. The first ballot thing is stupid God. Can we stop using that friend a first of all, you know what they should do. They should welcome. How about this day should have the there should be used should be able to waive the five. Tim, Duncan should go right to the hall of fame. But like I think I think there should be a certain class of players that the five year waiting period doesn't apply. I don't. Again, I don't know what the criteria would be. I just know Tim Duncan, she just get in the hall of fame. You should have the star next to nail on basketball reference now. Yeah, no question. But the first ballot thing is stupid because once you're in you're in and nobody, there's not a wing of the hall of fame like, here's where we put the third ballot hall of famers. Here's what we put the guys who got voted in by the veterans committee. It's it's asinine Chauncey is the one. If it's to me the two guys who are the first two considerations for the pistons are Cianci and Ben Wallace and Cianci's the engine of that team Chauncey is the the conscience of that team.."