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Settle in because this is a long interview. We did Tuesday afternoon with Jerome Ghinwa. Should I introduce some Elliott as future hall of Famer Jerem Gala. Absolutely I mean this is going to be a weird one, because we don't know if there's going to be an induction ceremony and twenty twenty, but don't you think he's a first batter? Look at the numbers like thirteen hundred point six hundred goals fifteen hundred games, two gold medals going away. This guy is a hall of Famer. I don't even know who would argue that like who's arguing that with you nobody now. What was it about drool? McGinley's game that you'd like specifically well. You know I just like that you know. He was like a bull in a China shop. Right like He. There was a log in this interview. That I thought was really interesting. Tim Talking about when he was a kid. You didn't really like the hitting very much because when he was in Nhl, he sure looked like he loved it. We didn't talk about this. But I. Always remember the shift in Tampa like game. Five of the Stanley Cup. Final you know when supreme scored in overtime, and he was just determined that they were going to win that. Game Right. That's what I think of when I think of him, but I also think of the Olympic stuff like huge gold medal game, two goals in two thousand, two of course, the golden goal assist in two thousand ten, like those are two of the biggest hockey moments in our country's history, and his fingerprints are all over it. And interesting that he points out, he wasn't even sure if he's going to get on the ice and overtime in twenty ten in Vancouver that to him was a surprise thing. They found a way to put him out there. No kidding, okay, let's get right to it. Here is future hall of Famer sounds good drama. Gilan thirty-one thoughts the podcast. Elliott were pleased to be joined now by someone we can safely say. His a future hall of Famer Tick Tick Tick. Tick Jerome Again La of the acts of the. Calgary Flames Boston Bruins Pittsburgh Penguins La. Kings Colorado Avalanche Kamloops Blazers. Joins us now on the PODCAST. Jerome thanks so much for doing this today. Hey Jeff! Thanks a lot for having me guys. Hey, Elliot Hey Jerome. The pleasure is ours and we really need to begin on a serious tone. Everything that's happened stateside since a murder of George Floyd. The unrest which has led to and we talked to Kim Davis from the NHL Executive vp of social impact on a podcast earlier on this week Jerome and we talked about having uncomfortable conversations. And I think we're all having those now. I'm sure you're having those with your family and we can get to what the nature of those conversations with, but as you watched, the events unfold over the past week and a half two weeks. What's gone through your mind? Yes It was very very hard to watch videos over the last. Couple of weeks Ahmad Armory. Jogging and getting attacked horrible and then George Floyd. You know when when I watched that and and my wife. Would literally it was so horrible and. You can't watch without in all like got choked up watching, and it is something that every I've seen it more than once. You know what I mean. It's everywhere as it should be as horrible it is that in people's minds and it's gotTa stop and. The protests that are going on are very powerful, and they're very important, and you know I. I believe in them and. What they're about and and having changed and I do hope they continue i. do I really you know I think that there are powerful? People are hearing the message and you know when you watch on TV in Boston where where we. Been New Watch. It's I I like to see that it's. It's not just black people out protesting together white people, black people, all races and sharing a message saying they want change and I think that you know it's ages different ages it's it's very diverse and I. think that is very important and. It's very hard to have those conversations with the kids when they they know what's going on. Our daughter is turning sixteen and our boys are turning fourteen and twelve in. You don't want them to see videos. You don't want them to see that, but at the same time the have to know. What important time this is and and how things need to change. Jerome I was wondering about that. You come from a biracial family. Your children are biracial. How do you in care talk to them about growing up in North America? You live in Boston, but you also summer in Canada. What do you talk to them about in terms of what it's like to grow up with their backgrounds in this continent? When? I see the stories and stuff and and being. Like you, said Biracial and growing up as a as a black hockey player. I didn't have the same, no, thankfully the team. Troubles and the same experiences as a lot of black people growing up in North America, and especially the states and I know that and just because I didn't have them, you know. They're. They're wrong. You know what I mean I definitely like it's so hard because when you you know. When these types of situations people wanna ask you know what I grew up with what you WANNA be able to support all the issues and what I believe in I do believe in all of this stuff, but at the same time it's hard because my experiences growing up the hockey player I was the only minority of hockey, a blockade actually growing up on my. Hockey teams, and it wasn't a big issue for me. Growing up in Saint Albert just outside Edmonton, but I know other kids had many issues and getting to. Hearing stories and I hate to hear stories I hate them in the wrong. You know you hear about. Cold. Terrible things in the. N. Word from your coat. In minor hockey I I can't even relate. Whereas know, mind my, you know. The few instances that I have are people. You know had like. It's hard to talk about it. It's hard to articulate I'm sorry. It is it's something that I knew I was the only bucket playing hockey, and and you know minor kids would say okay, we'll. What are your chances of playing in the NHL There's no other black players for me. It was always very important very very important for me, flying my dream and very special to be able to look and say while there's grant fuhr. There's Tony mccague, neither is Claude. Bill. Green and that was what I was dealing with, and it was always powerful. Yes, we're there. Some incidences that I had where something was going on the stands and you know one of our parents would have to. Our one of our parents would go over and talk to. And later after the game here all you know it was Somebody said something inappropriate and ignorant, and you know one of my teammates. DADS went over and talk to them and. You know those meant a lot to me to have that support from my teammates in the other families, and it meant to tie wouldn't have been the same as if it's my grandpa having to go over there and talked to him, so, but in those weren't that often for me you growing up in Saint Albert, so I'm very thankful for that, but do. Do acknowledge that that wasn't the same for all hockey. Players get anything challenge other people's stories, and it's wrong. What a lot of kids have to go through, and I'm also very thankful for me being the first black player to play in the NHL and to break those barriers for us in I'm thankful that I didn't have to I. Don't I mean? When I when I was asked questions and be able to lean on that. Okay, there's other I. don't even know what how response would have how it would have felt if I didn't have response to say, you're right. There are no black players and let alone what he had to go through all the challenges and all the racial stuff he faced. You know so. I'm very thankful for my path, but also for the guys who went before me, and and and had to endure the the stuff, and they I know that obviously there s things that still go on. That are completely wrong and I think this is a moment where. We can hopefully make some real progress as a society in everything we do and sports and. And in education and healthcare and equality so. We believe in it and. My family does in their heart. Conversations in have the kids now. What do we tell them? You know they know a lot of stuff they read in. You know with Internet, but we also want how important it is to to treat people while and to respect everybody each other and try to be aware of of that and how we're treating people, and you know we're all created equal, so those are my thoughts I know it's hard to. Hear a lot of different things, and we all want to contribute, and we all want to say anything that we can to help and it's hard because.