Sarah Shafer, Manhattan, Anoxia discussed on Unhappy Hour with Matt Bellassai

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To. Oh, my ex-boyfriend used to say that to me all the time to like don't ever move. And I'd be like, but I'm gonna right, right? Is it that was a bad idea? Was it? I got a dog. So I mean, I moved from three hundred square foot apartment the size of the studio a seven hundred square foot apartment, which double it. Yeah. In Manhattan, it was like all right? I guess. Yeah. Just like, it's what you value your again. Here's what I always say. It is what you Baillieu. So this like it. It depends on what you want to spend money on my girlfriend loves close. So she wants to buy clothes. She's not going to lie. She lives in anoxia great apartment because she wants to have these close. That's really fine. Like, I value our live. So I want to spend money on where I live, and I don't really care about close. But like, I it's like this thing when I was a kid. We are driving my dad we were driving. We drove past a like a really shitty house that had. I mean, my neighborhood was full of. But it that house had a portion the driveway and I said to my dad. Wow. That's a really nice car in front of a shitty house. Why do they have a shitty house in a nice car? And my dad was like because they value cars. And I was like oh, right. They live in that house. So they can have this nice car because they love cars. So it's like really what you value in in your heart is what you spend on. You don't have to cut thing. You know, if you wanna make cuts in and budget, or whatever you don't have to cut things that you love, but you have to decide what you love. And then what you can do with. Thout, basically. But don't see I don't like this whole thing of like get rid of everything and be live in a hut. You know what I mean? Yeah. I I also come from Blake my, grandma, she hordes so much stab someone in my family who listen to this podcast, and I'll get a talking to about this. But yeah, like, she has her bedroom is still like stacked with beanie babies. Best man, got it. Yeah. And so like the idea throwing stuff away was always like instilled in us as like bad. Now, do that you hang onto everything. That's like your money in the book. I talk about like your money lessons are taken from your family. And you just believe, you know, whatever. Right. Like, you internalize it so much that it's hard to untangle. It's hard to like take the emotion out of it or become you know, like my dad lost his job when I was younger. And then we moved from a bigger house to a smaller house. And so maybe that's why I like having a larger house, I don't know. But like there's things that it's very like, psychologically like therapies yourself about it in the book, the comedian, Sarah Shafer talks about how when she was younger her if she was upset her parents would bring her to the drugstore by her a pound puppy doll. And then so now she shops when she feels sad because it's just mentally a pound puppy. So like, I'm sure that's relatable. A lot of people like you have it just gets ingrained in you. So young right, right. So it's the book like what is the format of the book? How's it different than the podcast? Like what how is it? An interruption of the podcast the podcast is focuses a lot on. I mean, it was like the first season was long form conversations. And then the second season, we sorta tackled topics. I mean, the book it's funny 'cause I didn't know this was a genre. Financial memoir. So it's about my own mistakes. And and history. But then it's also got like, here's what I learned. Here's how you do a retirement. Here's what taxes are. It's a lot of stuff that I took a year to research so sort of like, hey, I did this. You don't have to basically save a year of your life. But I I think a lot of finance media comes from a place a very aspirational you can do this..

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