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Their loss. Some of them are here in The Hague for this final judgments, which they hope Will results in radical modish being locked up for the rest of his life. On a holiday with that report, And in the next hour we'll be speaking to Camille Makovich. He's a former mayor Shelbourne it so he was 16 at the time of the massacre. He fled and walked 110, kilometers for seven days to get to a safe place will be joining us in the next hour. 25 minutes past the hour. Joe Biden is very much on the world stage with the G seven rich Club of countries meeting in a few days. Who gets to meet him and how is a very significant issue a status issue for world leaders. A few days ago, Ukraine's President Vladimir Zelensky was saying in an interview. He really really wanted to meet Joe Biden before the U. S president had a scheduled meeting. With Russia's Vladimir Putin. Zelinsky offered to meet Biden at any moment and at any spot on the planet. He didn't get a meat straight away, but they have spoken on the phone. Sedensky has been invited to the White House this summer. And, of course, they had a lot of issues to talk about. Olga is a journalist in Ukraine. Joins us on the line from Kiev. There was a certain desperation in the tone older wasn't there that Zelinsky really wanted to have a sort of a face to face meet, or it was certainly a conversation before Biden meets Putin Will Will he be satisfied with a telephone conversation and an invite for later? Good morning and thank you for having made some pleasure. Well, first of all, this call is the second call between Zelinsky and Biden after Biden took office in January this year, And finally, there is an invitation to the White House, something that Zelensky was expecting since he became president of Ukraine in 2019. You and the listeners probably remember the scandal with that led to the impeachment process against the former U. S. President Donald Trump at which was actually the conversation with the landscape and, uh, Trump that was basically asking for a quid pro quo from Talansky, saying that he would be invited to the White House if he launched a trial if he supported the trial against Uh huh. That's right, yes. Start these ties to Joe Biden's son. So, uh, Zelinsky was denied a meeting. Then there was no hints at the meeting at his first conversation with Joe Biden earlier this year, and then finally, there is an invitation. So, of course, on the one hand, that's a big victory and the big delivery bubble for Zelinsky. They will be meeting in July. We know that already from the Lansky's statement, his office statement. On the other hand, of course, there is some disappointment, probably for Zelensky that this meeting will follow Joe Biden's meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin scheduled to take place in Geneva on June 16. Why? Because you know that Ukraine is at the state of war with Russia. Basically, the factor the your is not, but the factor it is. Russia has been concentrating troops on Ukrainian borders Since April, there is a gas pipeline North Stream two Russian guest pipeline that is almost completed. And other pressing issues that the Lansky wanted to discuss with Biden before him, It's Putin. Now, these are very big issues. But there seems to be a sort of a tone of Biden of opposition of resistance to put in much more so than under Trump. So does the Lenski hope for advantage. The North Stream two bit of a disaster for the country, and yet, do they have hopes? In the future. Well, Definitely. There is more hope in Ukraine and in Ukrainian government and president Zelensky that under the Biden administration, there will be more substantial US support to Ukraine, a more substantial that it was during the Donald Trump times. So, um, and North Stream two is one of those projects that the Lansky hope the U. S would help, too. Block it. Although the project is on the final stage of construction, and during the call, we know that they discussed this gas pipeline with Lewinsky, saying that this is not an economic project that this is a security threat, and he also hinted that some security guarantees should be provided to Ukraine. If the North Stream two is completed, we don't know what does that mean yet and from Joe Biden's statement? We only know that the the president's discussed the need for close cooperation on energy security, so that probably also remains North Stream two Ukraine This is a vital issue because it would deprive Ukraine of its transit fees. Gas transit. A lot of exactly a lot of money at stake. Their older, many thanks, indeed. All go to karaoke. Distribution of the BBC World Service in the U..