Blondie Debbie Harry, Blondie, Debbie discussed on Minnie Questions with Minnie Driver
Wow. Pizza. I love that you said that like a revelation. It's kind of what I imagine blondie eating. Like, let's go get a slice. It's like in between grinding cool songs. Let's get a slice. Like that's. Let's see, that's actually perfect. That's it. Hello, I'm mini driver. Welcome to the premiere of many questions season two. I'm so glad you're here and if you're new to this show, let me fill you in. I've always loved priests questionnaire. It was originally a 19th century parlor game where players would ask each other 35 questions aimed at revealing the other player's true nature. It's just the scientific method really. In asking different people the same set of questions, you can make observations about which truths appear to be universal. I love this discipline, and it made me wonder what if these questions were just the jumping off point? What greater depths would be revealed if I asked these questions as conversation starters with thought leaders and trailblazers across all these different disciplines? So I started this podcast because I wanted to put together a kind of cultural anthology where I invite you to explore the questions I think we've all been asking ourselves lately. How are we similar? How are we individual? Which commonalities surprise us? And why? So I adapted Bruce questionnaire and I wrote my own 7 questions that I personally think are pertinent to a person's story. They are. When and where were you happiest? What is the quality you like least about yourself? What relationship real or fictionalized defines love for you? What question would you most like answered? What person place or experience has shaped you the most? What would be your last meal? And can you tell me something in your life that's grown out of a personal disaster? And I've gathered a group of really remarkable people, ones that I am honored and humbled to have had the chance to engage with. You may not hear their answers to all 7 of these questions. We've whittled it down to which questions felt closest to their experience or the most surprising or created the most fertile ground to connect. And I'm starting season two with legendary lead singer of the band blondie Debbie Harry. We don't usually use one of the 7 questions as the episode opening. But because Debbie is such a rule breaker, I figured it was only right to break a rule in her episode. I've always felt like blondie and the Ramones and the New York dolls. Were this super creative scream in the face of corporate rock? And Debbie herself has always felt to me to be part of the Vanguard of cultural engagement. She is a reflective soul and a straight shoe to of the best New Jersey variety. And as usual, it was a privilege to have spoken with a person who has helped shape the cultural conversation so specifically. So the first question is where and when were you happiest? Well, I think that I was happiest in the early days of blondie. I probably didn't really know how happy I was, but I was very happy. It was a Brave New World and I was struggling, you know, climbing and learning and working and it was quite a wonderful. And the reason I know this is because when they flew the planes into the twin towers, I went through the series of anger of grief of this in a bat and one day I was just sort of laying there on the couch and I thought, oh my God, I wish it was the 70s again and this tremendous feeling came over me about how that was a great wonderful time for me. So I look at that as being happy. Do you think it's because you guys were part of that Vanguard of that New York scene, that whole music movement that happened? Were you aware of just being at the forefront of something and creating it? Or were you just too busy being in that whole music scene in the club scene that you didn't realize that you were at the forefront? Oh, I don't think we thought of ourselves as being at the forefront. You know, it was very creative period for us. And we were daredevils and you know, we thought that we were daredevils. I don't know, the scene was very energetic and it was really nothing of value. None of us had record deals or anything like that. We're all scrambling and scuttling around little vermin. But you know it was very creative. So we fed off each other's creativity and it was, you know, this sort of one opportunity as much as, you know, we could figure out how to do. And it was a spirited, I guess, is the best way. You know how people do in music today. There are so many collaborations. Like you'll have all these people doing guest vocals on other people's tracks. Was there a lot of collaboration that we didn't necessarily get to hear that wasn't necessarily recorded? Like, do you remember playing and writing or recording with other people that it was never really for public consumption? The time that I was thinking, I was really kind of before we did any recording. Serious reporting. I mean, later on, I sang on something of the Ramones. I think I'm proudly. The only female to sing on her Ramones record, then I did something with Dede when Dede did his rap invasion. I remember. I'm definitely going to listen to that tonight. Yeah, Judy king. So there were some of that, but that sort of came around later, but I think in the early days, people were just maybe swapping back and forth musicians more than performing officially, you know, like for a while, television's current base player, Fred Smith, was my bass player. You know, and then Richard hell broke off and formed the voidoids and Walter lore was playing with the voidoids or when he was playing with Johnny thunders. You know, there was sort of this period of time when people were establishing who they were. So I think that that is sort of an era that nobody really knows about that much. It was never officially recorded. Maybe it was risque or something. I don't know. So do you think that it was freedom from any kind of pressure that he would just creating in a vacuum outside of a record label expectation or numbers or money or anything that that was really sort of unadulterated happiness for you is unencumbered creativity. Yeah. I mean, we all had the goals and high aspirations of playing for thousands and thousands in arenas. And of course, you know, anybody who joins a rock band has that dream. You know, that that's really where they all want to go. Very few want.