Measles, President Trump, Jose discussed on PBS NewsHour


In the northwest part of the country is leading to new concerns about a lack of vaccinations in some communities and just who may have been exposed to the infectious disease public health officials in Washington across the Columbia River from Portland, Oregon say there are thirty five confirmed cases in Clark county. Twenty five of them are in kids who are ten years older younger at least thirty one of those cases are among those not in United to other cases are confirmed in Oregon and Washington the areas considered a hot spot so to speak when it comes to lack of vaccinations Hari Sreenivasan spoke about that very issue yesterday for news hour weekend with Dr Anthony Anthony Fauci the head of the National Institute of allergy and infectious diseases at the NIH Hari asked Dr vouch if he was surprised that so many of the infected were not immunized. I'm surprised and disheartened that there are so many people still who are not vaccinated against measles. The idea that the. Overwhelming majority of the people who got measles who are unvaccinated is not surprising at all. That's exactly what you would expect. Because the measles vaccine is one of the most effective vaccines of all vaccines that we have if you get the two doses that are prescribed that you should get during childhood one at eleven to twelve months and one at four to six years is ninety seven percent protective. You know? This is Clark county is in the southern border of the state with Portland, Oregon, or I should say the state of Oregon, and it's kind of seeping out their concerns in the Portland area as well. But you know, is up and down the state that in that state. There seemed to be clusters similar to other states. How do you change that? Because there are lots of states that actually give families the option to not vaccinate their children. Well, I think that you have to be much more strict about the flexibility that you give to so so-called philosophical objection to getting vaccinated because that gets abused. And when you. Get below a certain level of the percent of people in the community that are vaccinated. That's a disaster. Waiting to happen. You have to have at least ninety two and as much as ninety five or more percent of everyone in the community vaccinated in order to get that umbrella of what we call her to munity protection. Once you get down below a certain level is just waiting to have the kinds of outbreaks that you're seeing now in Washington state, and that we've seen in New York City and in New York state where among certain populations such as the orthodox Jews who have a lower level of vaccination that same sort of danger and vulnerability so we've got to get past that and get people educated to realize that this is a serious disease. And when you stop vaccinating or give excuses for not vaccinating, these are the kind of things that are going to happen. And the thing that people need to appreciate is that the idea that measles is a trivial disease is. Incorrect before vaccines were available. Measles was one of the most terrifying. Diseases that you could have globally there were millions of deaths each year and in the United States before we have the vaccine that was widely distributed in the sixties. They were a couple of million cases four five hundred deaths a year and a thousand cases of encephalitis, which is an inflammation of the brain. We don't want to go back there, even if it's an individual communities. That's a terrible place to be put measles in perspective. What happens with measles? And why is it? So contagious. Okay. So the typical case of measles is child gets a fever. They get a running knows. They get a conjuncture bias or inflammation of the is they get a cough, and then they get a rash. A couple of days later. They get a rash starts off in the face goes through the body. Most of the time it recovers. It's very uncomfortable for the child. But if you look at the statistics one in ten who get measles get ear infections that can lead to deafness one in twenty get pneumonia. One in two thousand get encephalitis, which is an inflammation of the brain and one two three or so thousand individuals who get measles actually, die from it. So the idea that anybody saying it's not a series of potentially serious disease is just incorrect period to put this number in perspective. This is already about thirty one cases that we're talking about just in the state of Washington. But this is in the larger trend line is. Is this getting better getting worse? It's getting worse. And unfortunately, the anti vaccine in certain segments of the population, certainly not generalized is just growing, and it's getting worse. And it's based fundamentally on misinformation that you don't want to denigrate people who make those kinds of decision and essentially attacked them that doesn't work. You gotta understand. They have these beliefs and the way you try and get them to understand the importance of getting vaccinated is talk about the facts talk about the evidence, don't attack them, and sometimes people tend to put him in attacked them. You've got to understand they have these beliefs. But if present them with the facts, you may be able to win back a substantial proportion of them. I think some of them you never will win back to the to the issue of being able to realize the importance of vaccination, but I think you can try, and I know you can try to get the. Facts to them and some of them will change their mind. One of the things that's really interesting that people don't seem to appreciate that. It's an interesting the bilateral thing. We're on the one hand measles is one of the most contagious infections in history. And on the other hand, we have a vaccine that's one of the most effective axes of any in history. And it just seems such a shame that you have a disease that if left unchecked can rampantly spread and yet you have a tool a safe tool a proven safe tool that can stop it in its tracks. That's the evidence that we've gotta get to people of why it's so important to vaccinate yourself with a safe vaccine, which is the measles vaccine that was Dr Anthony Fauci of the NIH will continue to watch this outbreak in the coming days. The immigration case backlog has been steadily growing, and the recent government shutdown only made the problem worse from Houston public media to Mika Weatherspoon has the story of one man caught in the middle his future unknown since fleeing his home in two thousand seventeen Jose has had a lot of time to think. I remember with tears in my eyes, I left I can't anymore. Yarmuth. He fled violence in his birth country. Nicaragua. Then two months later, he crossed over the US border and requested asylum kitty or throw trusted in God that the opportunity would come and here, I am. Thanks to God. I'm here. But now this country is closing in stores on me. Although he passed a credible fear interview and was allowed to enter the country has been able to get a social security card or driver's license until cases heard immigration court. His life is in limbo. According to his attorney, really powers, he's gone through a lot. And I think he really wants to to make a change. He's been putting his life on hold waiting for for his hearing. Jose is just one of more than eight hundred thousand immigration cases in a backlog, that's grown exponentially. After more than a year of setbacks. Jose had a hearing scheduled an immigration court on January eighth in Houston, Texas. But that morning. His attorney notified him that his hearing had been cancelled that same evening. President Trump addressed the nation. My fellow Americans tonight. I'm speaking to you because there is a growing humanitarian and security crisis at our southern border with a partial government shutdown over, but another one looming three weeks away, the Trump administration, and congress are still debating what to do about border security people wanting to immigrate to the US or cotton the middle during the shutdown tens of thousands of immigration court hearings for canceled. I don't think there's any question that we have a very dire crisis. In terms of our immigration system. Jeffrey Hoffman is the director of the immigration clinic at the university of Houston. We have a humanitarian crisis with respect to people who are frustrated in terms of trying to get their asylum cases heard a client may not be able to hear or get his case heard until two thousand twenty one or twenty twenty two for his part. Jose has no idea when he's hearing will take place he worries that due to the shutdown. His case will go to the back of the line. His biggest fear is being sent back to Nicaragua. What do you think would happen if you had to return to your home country? Me either I fear for my life for the happiness. I have here. Karaguanov to last country foot on KOMO pike. Pizzeria. I would rather go to another planet auto planet for now who say sits and waits even with the government now open. It's unclear how immigration courts are going to address his case in hundreds of thousands of other immigration cases for the PBS NewsHour and to make a Weatherspoon and he in Texas. The government is now reopen the political costs for President Trump are still being tallied. All this as Democrats look ahead to twenty twenty and brace for a potential independent challenger breaking. It down is our politics Monday pair, that's Amy Walter of the cook political report and tamra Keith of NPR, Amy. We're coming off a bruising fight after this shutdown. Now, a lot of that blowback came back to President Trump and the polls aren't looking so good for them right now. What do we know based on what people reacted to well what we know is the president's approval rating now averaging somewhere around forty percent. That's not great. But it's not the worst that the president the shape that he's been in. That was really back in two thousand seventeen he spent a good amount of time down in the high thirties and low forty when is the bigger problem for the president? And for Republicans writ large is that they not only lost the battle over getting funding for the wall. But they lost the war the war on who's going to be better on border security who do Americans trust on the issue. Order security going into the two thousand eighteen election. Obviously, we talked a lot on this show about the caravan. What impact immigration and the debate was going to have on the twentieth. Eighteen election at that time, the ABC news Washington Post poll found that on the issue border security Democrats were behind Republicans by about ten points that people trusted Republicans more now that same ABC poll. Democrats have a two point lead on border security. A Fox News poll you tr- trust Trump on handling border security. He's underwater by ten points. So it's bigger and broader than just well who was responsible for the shutdown. I think that's one piece of it. But if you're losing on ground that the president and Republicans have long held is their most comfortable turf, and where they are the strongest this should be the biggest danger signal for them coming out of this this whole last thirty days. So looking ahead to the next three weeks now. Tam the president has another chance to kind of double down on this to get something. He's been fighting for if they can't come through with some funding at the end of three weeks. What does that mean? Well, and it's unclear whether they won't get any. You know, like it comes down to what is the wall? Anyway, what is border security this conference committee is meeting now the conference committee won't go out beyond what leadership wants, but you know, it's entirely possible that they come up with a five point seven billion dollar or more package that includes a whole lot of border security and not a whole lot of wall..

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