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The state of the union is Tuesday and afterwards, there'll be a response from the opposing party. We'll curious about how these responses come together. And why they're so hard to let's say hit out of the park. So we turn now to someone who's given one Kathleen civilians, she was governor of Kansas in two thousand eight when she gave hers and later became President Obama's health and Human Services Secretary the architect of ObamaCare secretary. Thank you so much for joining us. Good to be with you Lulu. Former Georgia governor candidates. Stacey Abrams will be speaking after the president this Tuesday night. And I guess the common sense advice is always be natural be yourself. Right. Remembering your response to President Bush in two thousand eight what some advice, you would have Abrahams. Well, I would start by saying it's a very tough gig. You get lots and lots and lots of advice from lots and lots of people just caused to be I think more and more frozen about what this possibly meant. I was governor at the time. So the setting I thought would be sort of comfortable by by the time all the lights and camera and make up everything else gets there. It's it doesn't feel like you're in a natural setting at all Stacy is a very gifted speaker, but a very smart strategic democrat. And I think whatever she chooses to say, I'm sure she will say eloquently last year's respondent congressman, Joe Kennedy, advises Abrahams to misplaced your chapstick, of course. Because his lips look so shiny during his address. It was apparently all anyone could focus on. I'd like to how these speeches. Together, aren't there people there to tell you that your lips are shiny who actually is in the room? When you're giving this address in my case, it was some of my family members, lots of strangers crews in lighting and make up and they sort of take over. It's it's just a a difficult venue to appear natural to be calm. Whatever the speech that I gave was widely panned appropriately for being too wooden and to repetitive. And to whatever I did get a call from a good friend who said by makeup, look terrific. I think he was searching for a complimentary. Keeping in mind all the grousing about how the state of the union is less informative that it's an infomercial for whoever whatever president gives it. Do you think the response is really necessary? Do you think it's it's really a moment where you can engage the American people. Well, I thought it was really interesting at least if their numbers are accurate that the last time, the president spoke to the nation and delivered a national security speech, which was again, you know, some kind of infomercial for a wall, and his particular, and I would say somewhat peculiar view of what national security is all about the response had more viewers than did the president's address. Clearly, they might have they might have. There might have been a lot of people watching. But they were panned. I mean, people said that they looked strange and wooden. And also I is there. Is there any way to really get a win out of this? I guess is the question I thought the visuals for a little odd. There's visuals. There is the message. There's I think there probably is a need for some kind of response. And probably if you've got eyeballs on the president you want to take advantage of that and give some alternate and mobile reality based view of the world, but the speech is clearly not meant as refute to the state of the union because you have no idea, particularly this time, no idea what it is that this president may actually suggest to the American people. I think the best you can do. And I think Stacy will do a great job delivering this is a message that can serve as an alternative vision for the country, and where we need to go. That's former h as secretary, Kathleen civilians. Thank you so much. Great did fact ULA from K Q weedy news. I'm Tiffany Cam. Hi this weekend. Crowds are lining up at Santa Rosa's. Russian river brewery to have a taste of Pliny the younger. It's only released once a year and part of the craze that swept the craft beer scene. But despite this Sara Hussain reports that the India pale ale style is seeing subtle backlash. India pale ale r I p a was once the answer to the problem of supplying beer to imperial British troops in the east, the extra hops and high alcohol content helped preserve it during its long journey and for years now the IP allowed many bay area craft brewers to offer something different in their fight against the conglomerates at the recently opened Tigers taproom your Oakland's Jack London square co owner Bryan Chan is bringing me up to speed on. What makes IP special? It's a drinkable.

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