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Steve Inskeep in Washington DC and I'm David green in Culver city California good morning in last night's debate in Detroit democratic candidates offer very different visions of the country and also of the campaigns they would run against president from some spoke of radical change others of a more moderate middle path and this came across as the candidates talked about healthcare and whether to pursue Medicare for all let's talk through some of the moment from last night with NPR political reporter Daniel Kurds living he's in our studios in Washington I Daniel Hey David I saw a big question about any big plan particularly when it comes to healthcare is how exactly you pay for it and CNN's Jake tapper had a very specific question for senator Elizabeth Warren would you raise taxes on the middle class to pay for Medicare for all offset obviously by the elimination of insurance premiums yester now costs will go up for billionaires and go up for corporations for middle class families costs total cost will go down okay yes or no would you raise taxes there wasn't really an answer it sounds like so what what do we learn from that response was born what she's getting at a really important distinction on Medicare for all that could be easy to lose with one of those sort of simplistic yes or no would taxes go up questions what she's trying to say is that even if your taxes did go up under this plan you still might end up with more money in your pocket than you have now the way that that works is that the it's true that Bernie Sanders has proposed a bunch of taxes under Medicare for all as she alluded to there a lot of those are are you could be on the wealthy but there is one in particular that would hits middle class families but also under his plan there would be no premiums no copays so the argument she's making here that Sanders makes as well is it all together you have a lot of people who would on net save money now I did consult with a couple of health care experts last night and I ask them is that plausible and what they said is yes totally plausible the some families would middle class families would pay less if the plan works as intended and of course we can't say that across the board for all middle class families sounds like a really central question of if candidates like Sanders a Warner are really going to get traction with even some more moderate voters that they're gonna have to really convince people on the top most definitely yes what a number of the more moderate candidates last night made an argument that I think you hear from a lot of Republicans writing the argument that if you replace private health insurance with a government run system it could actually take people's health care away and I want to hear right now how Bernie Sanders responded to that the fact of the matter is tens of millions of people lose their health insurance every single year when they change jobs when their employer changes that insurance if you want stability in the healthcare system if you want a system which gives you freedom of choice with regard to doctor or hospital which is a system which will not bankrupt you the answer is to get rid of the property hearing of the companies and the insurance companies are about a cavern passionate moment that did this argument get settled all last night no of course that I read to be clear we're talking about here so sinners Medicare for all plan would largely eliminate private insurance that's very true now last night you had worn and Sanders trying to re frame things saying you know we're not taking people's health care away under this plan it means giving everyone health care it just means changing what the insurance looks like but this question of what would happen to private insurance is one aspect of Medicare for all that really has proven unpopular in pulling so for opponents of the program that line of attack about you would lose your current private insurance is potentially really potent I want to turn to to the economy and and trade specifically as a big issue in twenty sixteen it's it's been central to the trump administration's economic policy and and things got heated last night this is former Maryland congressman John Delaney speaking about a trade policy negotiated by president Obama most of the folks running for president want to build economic walls for free trade and beat up on president Obama I'm the only one running for president who actually supports the transpacific partnership president Obama was right about that we should be getting back in that senator Warren just issued on a trade plan that would prevent the United States from trading with its allies we can't go in we can isolate ourselves from the world we have to engage banking rules based Horace Mann Delaney okay then what we learned from the whole debate over trade listening we learn that especially on the issue of trade you have some really big divisions even among Democrats your people like John Delaney who support some of those big multi lateral deals like the trans Pacific partnership and then you have people like Bernie Sanders Elizabeth Warren both of whom really opposed to that deal at by the way that deal was something that Barack Obama pushed and he that he is by the way quite popular among Democrats so that this is definitely a thing that could create a big fish among Democrats is something I'm gonna be watching very closely as more debates go on and here's the new Yorkers living talking through some of the moments last night thanks so much thank you in Kentucky a group of coal miners is blocking a coal train they've camped out on the tracks images show them standing on the tracks even playing corn hole on the tracks in front of a coal train and the miners say they will not leave until they're bankrupt employer black jewel pays them here's WMM tease Sydney balls hi honey Kentucky this modern world has a long history of labor activism in the latest protest drivers honked to support coal miners who since Monday have staged a sit in of sorts as many as twenty miners have blocked a railroad in Cumberland Kentucky they've been sitting in chairs are parking trucks across the tracks they've kept a train full of coal from leading a plant the miners now bankrupt in player black jewel coal hasn't paid them for almost a month black tool is the nation's sixth largest coal company and its bankruptcy has rippled through local communities and more than a thousand Appalachian miners and their families minor selection Smith say they won't get off the tracks until they're paid if they can lower trying out they can give us our money Mr of a hundred and fifty miles round trip to work at a local mine the father of six says he scraped together enough change to travel to the protest minor body sextant says his bank account a short thousands from the loss of work my family is hungry man and I will do whatever it takes to the freedom I don't know if I'll go home if I don't place I'll sit years or whatever despite efforts by the trump administration to support coal production some coal producers continue to struggle mining company Blacklock also declared bankruptcy this month and more coal fired power plants are shutting their doors are converting to natural gas Blackpool did not respond to specific questions about the protest but the person who was C. E. O. until a month ago Jeff hoops says he's frustrated really sorry this reaches for an employee at the at some blacks will this week said it's working with the bankruptcy court to allow employees to tap retirement savings in their four oh one K.'s to access money immediately as for the current blockade of the Coltrane it's unclear who owns the coal and whether letting it through would help these miners eventually get the money they are owed for now they have no plans to leave the tracks for NPR news I'm Sidney pulls in Cumberland Kentucky.

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