Leukemia, Erin Brockovich, UPA discussed on The Ray Lucia Show

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Standard for what the what the health effects of a particular chemical are and so they are used not just by federal regulators these at program offices that UPA but. Are also used by state regulators and they're very well respected internationally so so if if a report like this, were to come out finding finding you know major risks associated with formaldehyde at low levels of exposure most likely would lead. To or you know could? Very easily to stricter regulations down the road but even, beyond that there's a concern around class, action lawsuits. Cleanup lawsuits. If anybody's seen the movie Erin Brockovich. Is that that sort of thing where and and the leukemia finding is particularly controversial For that reason he is one of the most common cancers in the country, and so if, if if a report like this is on the. Books saying there's a, link to formaldehyde then industry could, be looking, at lawsuits from from anybody who gets leukemia and thinks that the from hide industry may have had something to do with it Johnson and Johnson just faced a class action lawsuit related to baby powder is that right I think that's accurate I'm not familiar. With that one That's though the seems to be the driving concern here among corporate, interests that down the line there they could face lawsuits they. Could face increase regulations that could? Affect their bottom line are there beyond the monetary concerns are there? Other potential just science concerns that these companies might have. Maybe. They doubt, some of the science in these findings absolutely I mean and and to be to be clear. Like the finding about leukemia is a scientifically, controversial one it's not just a politically controversial, reversal one but if I look like concert controversial one I think we're learning a lot more about how the sciences. Done as it's become more controversial under the Trump administration but just a little. Bit of background about how these risk assessments are done there are multiple types of studies that are. What we used to understand the, risks of the chemical the one type is epidemiological research. So that's research on. The effects of chemicals on human And so that sounds like the kind of thing that we would be most interested in because we are after all humans but. Of course there are ethical limits to how those studies. Can be done right so like we're not gonna go expose people to high levels of formaldehyde and just see what happened that wouldn't be ethical, so oftentimes that kind of research is coming from incidental exposure. You know workers who were accidentally? Exposed or a community that was accident accidentally exposed and so you? Can't control an experiment like that or a study like. That. In the, same way that you can that you can control exposures to like lab rats and so it. Could be telling to figure out okay well, so we're seeing this exposure and then we're, seeing this pattern of health effects but how do I know that the leukaemia that I'm seeing in this community was. Caused by by exposure to this chemical as opposed to something else that you. Know maybe within the water supply for the community or maybe there's a virus going around in this. Particular community so it can be. Hard to sort of detangle that sure the causal relationships Always become Exactly and then you've got so then to sort of account, for that you have these other streams. Of research so you have the kinds of kind of lab experiments that it was describing where you might be using lab rats or other animals to you can do a more, controlled experiments but, you know in, that case you're looking at Iraq instead of. A human and, you know scientists say that for the most part of set of long as long as if you see an effect, in one you're likely to see it and. The other but, you know there are different animal different and then and then you're also looking at sort of Petri, dish science would you were taking from the molecular level and sort of expanding it and extrapolating outward using using. Computer models and so the the work that these risk assessors, do you it's sort of try and try and navigate research and information is brought from these three different streams of research and figure out how it all..

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