Ninety Seconds, Ten Minutes discussed on Just Fly Performance Podcast


Think working with the coach and having just a basic understanding what how quite a bit but yeah i think it comes back to like competing in some form of athletic thing like jumping sprinting playing some like tactical type sports sports like year round every single day that you're training do those things and then you're training should not be like yeah german volume like it should not be like that and if you are going to do things like like a train failure 'em probably like isolation type movements because you were not gonna do like bicep curls isolation and be like this messed up my athletic ability you know it's just not enough of these stimulus to do anything negative like that yeah i think it's either and that's one thing you're writing an article that really did hit home with me this the idea is like okay if i wanna get some a muscle group bigger i it would probably be better even for a squad or something like that and i mean maybe it's it's easier to contrast between arm curls and like a high rep arm curl and that's one of the things yeah you do in the mirror you probably get like a good bye on the bio chemicals stimulus to firm are girls in the mirror the failure and you feel that a bit like like squats failure a deep squats failure or or squads third through the he'll clear it higher ups you know stuff like that i feel like that has a profound effect negatively impact once athleticism perhaps dramatically i i i'd like to get into a little bit as i thought those colombian taken like leg extensions like girls like if i you know if i wanna get i mean i guess i dunno i dunno how many assets say i wanna get bigger legs it's always bigger arms upper body right like they thought for lower body though with that with that idea yeah exactly i mean personally for me like so 'em i base a lot of this again we we we hit me we had talked before about i'm a strength coach and i trained athletes like the way that i trained basically right like i trained things and i'm comfortable with training 'em and then this athlete gets a new strength coach and then they do very different types of training and it's like why is it brings it up and was like well because i interned under cow and a i was at university of minnesota duluth and i do this on my own training training i try not to do that as much as possible but 'em yeah so for me i'm like people are like how do i do chest and back and i'm like i have never had a small chest like it's just grown from training and i've always had a good backup just growing and training so i don't do i don't have back workouts for you i don't have chest workouts 'cause i don't need them so i can't really help you but i have my shoulders i know how to grow shoulders and grow grow up by subtracts up a but my legs have just grown from a squad split squads 'em so i don't do a lot of isolation type stuff and i don't yeah i don't know how much that even even helps i can't really answer that question because i don't have experience with it they just grew from squats like a variation on squads high bar squats lavar squats on dead lift trap are dead lift a not really assume all but like my legs just grew enough from that but i think also were talking we have the there is such a genetic thing of like i genetically responded wealth the training 'em but if people wanna use this doesn't excuse i'll be like well did you manage your stress stress did you eat enough food did you do everything you possibly could have done and you're in the time you train forever tree because no you didn't so don't use the genetics carter excuse unless you maximize absolutely everything but yeah the whole lot the that's what i see to is like people who wants a or do that at least the guy athletes they want big upper body you know maybe they don't really care about their legs 'em another thing with me is like cabs like i've always had decent decent sized cavs i have no clue how to build someone's cavs 'em 'cause i never went through it 'em they just were kind of there so yeah the whole thing is like squat stair lifts i mean if that's not growing legs like a i guess i don't tell you i was gonna say that's a that's i'm glad you like you're you're a humble in like you you get it enough right like you get it mentioned it that like like i have experience with this so i mean to be honest i mean we look at it right like from a like a pure like what white guy is specially is gonna come to you and say man you know my my what college athletes say man my my claude hamstring ratio coaches a little bad how it's a bigger hamstrings on like what athlete ever is gonna say that right i i i look at it look at a couple of things one i really liked the single joined thing you mentioned too and i wanna come back this like i remember the easy strength and talking about even something like like leg press athletes like it's easy it almost is a strength coach to look at like you know these athletes in the eighties doing like leg press as their primary leg exercise i know a lot of track athlete did really good doing that through 'cause like leg press there's less neurologically demanding that squat an it's like if you're sprinting fast and jumping all the time maybe you should do something a little simpler when it comes to strang so it doesn't interfere neurologically and it's like it's not that many steps further to take it to on suddenly singles right now i'm not saying i that leg press it'd be like my primary but i think they were talking about more terms like peaking in when when when you're leg training when you're sprinting jumping is the most intense just let's just keep things simple is we can just do like press like in just a few steps of that and there's little narrow there's very low niro crossover it's good load a so that they wouldn't be that much it's kind of in the same vein or at least that's how i view it it's kind of the same wavelength though a machine a single lay it when you're not around a compromise the nervous system in the athletes pathway yeah yeah i i and i've heard this to like on podcast about training like single joint exercises with athletes and kind of having that argument because they're doing they have they let's say the compound movements on the court sprinting jumping a cutting you and i personally have it taken it that far too like art athletes were gonna do like extensions were like we also have machines like that but i'm like i mean we could just hit those patterns and maybe do a slow temple you know i know a key bars work with the fast the fast movements for the ten like typically attendance very stiff and then let's go do some slower somebody symmetrical it's the kind of balance it out and do the hillside 'em so i think that's kind of how i look at it i'm like with the whole you're saying what they're doing a leg press because of that i'm like well well i that's a wake the kind of like train and maybe counterbalanced that huge neurological load but i'm like well there are so many there's so many like buckets i guess with training like neurological tendon muscle you know like so many things going on at once but it's like if if we do one thing just to justify one area like what about everything else you know a but it is it is interesting though that story you say there yeah yeah i agree i i it's like there's so many buckets look at what the leg press it's like i think they only bucky truly truly justified just pure potentially ation like i wanna get some potentially ation and not like nervous system and not compromise and have little impact on other things are supposed easy get complicated with i and i'm glad you mentioned attendance stuff i wanna get that here soon i could you break down a little bit jacob out more about how you're closer training plays out so when it's time to you you talk about it's a five versus force at the ten 'em what what is your cluster trading kind of looked like forever yeah you're athletes yeah so well i don't actually do like hyper she faces athletes you know my training is very is very general like i it's an athlete came to me like i need to put on average fee i'd be like or any depend on size and it was a sport then he that'd be like okay but i don't work in football i don't work with men's basketball 'em over the woman's like a lot of women's sports and how many women are like i wanna put on muscle you know it's like a very rarely austin they're trying to take it away and they want their apps redefined 'em and you could tell them every day how doing crunches is not gonna give the maps they're still going to believe that it is so why not just throw it in there now you believe it but yeah personally like mike cluster training or athletes a on lineup it's i've worked with in the past lot of basketball players or rugby 'em it's really like every single day start off with something explosive nervous system wise and then you go into instead of like traditional like accomplishment instead of you're traditional like four sets of ten a at a at a load where like you're just grinding it out and it just feels terrible you basically just do double the sat's and you do have the wraps 'em so you're form is is very good a you're you're velocity is good if leaves you feeling good like a my first time experiment to this and this is all this is like basically the jonathan offers a structure i kind of changed it to do different phases throughout time 'em but it's like i would go in a my memories are like back when i was at university minnesota duluth i trained at superior because i had i had worked there the year prior superior you university of wisconsin superior ashley darien bar worked there a long time ago yeah interesting but be a i would go in you do it's a five squad like you're doing hyperactivity stuff and usually you do squat hypertrophy and you just feel like garbage you know like if you sina videos of like maybe john meadows guys like to get in buckets and stuff and that's probably good to do at certain times but i would leave like it's a five with like a minute or ninety seconds arrest of my buddies and you're like you feel like potentially like you're nervous system you feel awesome after doing like forty wraps at a pretty decent intensity which is very cool and end versus be opposite of like i feel absolutely miserable 'em so that's kind of how it goes and then as the program like the day goes on it's like you just go to more isolation type movements 'em enfor lower body there's not much i mean like a i believe i do like back extensions or or a single like stuff a hip through us and then upper body i mean there's just there's so many things you can do to get like an upper body pump but yeah those those like outrageous curls 'em they don't really really matter if you like going to failure unless like are you gonna puke from doing a set of curls there's something you know like is there a body just going to break down like like your body you feel if you really push squats you could feel miserable for but like a weaker you really push dead lifts you're if you really pushing bicep curls you like you feel terrible maybe for like ten minutes and then it's like all right i'm good so it just doesn't have that big global impact so yeah that's kind of the d d a structure of the training like really just high quality training and then when you get to be isolation type movements it's like go the failure really push yourself in kind of i just trying to get the best of both worlds you know like the best of the aperture trained get the best of the athletic ability and keep that athletic ability throughout time because if you're training like you just killing yourself in the weight room with grinding ending wraps like you do not you're not gonna go and perform highquality schoolwork it's just gonna be terrible you know so it's really like all year let's keep let's keep your ability to actually give 'em effort and focus to all of your 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