Listen: Brexit, Labor, Britain discussed on Remainiacs - the Brexit Podcast
"Belen Frank Montoya. We rely on your generous donations to make noise. I'm let's go and I have three venerable national institutions with me intense book how to be a liberal is out in May Have you had to be liberal yet spoiler the twist for a ninety seven okay. Is it easy. Think quite difficult now. Personally I can handle a few bonds. Do you have a bucket you think. The brexit is care about these cultural signifies more than remains to funded quite. I didn't know anyone who's angry about the idea of of Big Ben tolling out of the year I think this kind of land grab for the neutral political space ace in the country so it's the same thing as the coins stamps. There's the stuff that's just about the neutral non-political non-tribal space and if they can claim that they can say well the whole country is now this great adventure swashbuckling causes see and that's the sort of pivotal point for them. And so I think I don't question their emotions over it because I think they're emotional. Say this is a desire to just sort of on us out of reality to pretend that the entire country wants exactly the same things that they want to know. I think they genuinely when you do really profound you care about it and then of course because I'm basically fucking child as soon as I realize that they care about it. You must have it care when it is you just. You're not allowed also returning for her first. Broadcast of the twenty twenties is operatives LLC Brexit Ross Taylor harmless you quit your colleagues back there predictions since the twenty twenty and they're calling a hard brexit pretty much across the board is. Is there anything to look forward to any any soft spots. I'm not so sure that we can exactly look forward to eh one of my colleague. Simon Glendening who's a professor of philosophy he decides to quite Vic Vic and China's dining in incident prediction and he he put it quite. Interestingly away he said if we think of the world's future we always mean the place it will get to if it keeps going we see it going now and it doesn't occur to us that it is is not going in a straight line but in a curve and its direction is constantly changing. That sentence is very wittgenstein but but but essentially He's he's kind of hoping that things might veer off in a direction that we haven't thought of yet and that might be better. Well one thing to look forward to it was basically this week that thing you had in Jurassic Park the different pubic louse. Return by commute here. So we'll look forward to is the twenty twenty two festival of Britain. Martin Greenie planned London. Two thousand twelve ceremonies and Hosea. The city of Culture is lined up to lead it. It's been calling some causes prestwood brexit. which makes us less appealing? As if it's headlined by Notre Fraud In his bougie augie orchestra. Do you feel that by twenty twenty two and because you know if if he's involved Should should we be. Should we be thinking dreading this as a festival of Brexit or do you think it could actually be something rather more upbeat and uniting. Well doesn't even happen festival. Oh because There will be many more important things to think that I think will end up being very very small scale. But what I'm kind of hoping for is some sort of double-act with Michael. CAIN and John cleese Jason and couple of other high profile. BREXIT's and maybe Sean connery sort of coming down. As as James Bond but in a post brexit era so it will be like a twenty twelve off Olympic sp- apathetic Pale shadow that that's what I've been visiting. It'd be the Labor live of twenty twenty Alexandria is writer actor singer. Cook man about town around. Good Egg Alex just like in the apprentice the final five Labor leadership contenders assorted and the final. Oh five deputy leadership candidates some into the next round by the skin of their teeth including maniacs fave Richard Burgin Has the deadline passed for people to join the Labour Patio. It's affiliates to help choose okay so by the time the podcast goes out which will be either late on Thursday or Friday right it. We'll have passed for the support scheme but I looked into the rules in a bit more detail and it seems there is a bit of a back door in that people. People have until the twentieth to join an affiliate organization and their or union. There are loads of those listed on the Labor Party website right so you could join for instance. LGBT labor which is fifteen? quit a year or you could join Labor for Europe which is fifteen. quit a year you could join the Fabian Society Society and as long as you joined before the twentieth. Then you have until the third of February to register as an affiliated supportes return get a vote in the election still time for entry as fun yes. A poll of Labor list readers puts Rebecca Bailey in front of care style of forty two percent thirty seven percents and was second preferences taken into account. She would win according to this poll. Fifty one forty nine Do you think is accurate. Do you think this is Labor list breeders or a particular Lena. Particular way or J. Will Labor list leaders is a particular sample of I guess Labor people who are quite actively interested in involved. I don't know whether that skews it any particular way. I have no reason to doubt the results. But the Labor list person that commissioned the poll was in politics live today and she was saying that that doesn't take into account for instance the people joining now under the support scheme or affiliates and people like that seats just Labor members and also what you have to remember is that Corbin was elected elected on the first one. I think it was fifty. Nine forty one and the second leadership election was sixty two thirty thirty eight so for the continuity person to be fifty one forty nine and moving in the wrong direction is not a particularly good position to be in for Beckenham Baillio. I should think so she cannot open salvation today as well. Just didn't please me very much it but you'd expect it right now. Because for instance the same poll found that at least Mandy had incredibly low recognition. Yeah even even among Labour members so you would expect that as people get media exposure. You know after her Andrew Neil into you that particular ncua percentage will shoot up topping. The first posing was also way it wasn't it wasn't into a survey Labor listing different company. Yeah Yeah so you still not tracking movement in the same poll. I think once we get the second and third ED ones you'll be able to track movement which is always more reliable than the actual percents. We'll have the the people that want. Labor to in the next election will come out on top it. I try I have sworn to say negative things about any of the candidates and I'm holding to that going to put this pets dispenser in front of you see how you'll will holds up. It will hold up. I'm finding us. Can I say by the way that I literally just filed the peace with us about. How angry angry about the Big Ben Thing Classic Ramona? Today we will be trying to swerve. The personalities factual affiliation haircuts in the leadership race to look the Labor. Party's future policy options. What should stay from the two thousand seventeen and twenty nine teen manifestos and what should go? And what sort of Britain will labor be looking at even if it does husband twenty two thousand four election plus we know what barstools thought about business during the brexit campaign but is it possible to govern on a fuck business platform and later in the show has Britain actually on the EU a favor by Brexit. Saying all that after a few remind us. Rose don't believe all you hear about the red ball in some places it just needs a a little grouting on next live show is in remained voting Liverpool. On the afternoon of Saturday the fifteenth of February and tickets are on sale now we can announce that our special guest asked is the Liverpool Echo political editor. Liam Thorpe who will be joining me in and producer Andrew at the Beautiful Epstein Theater. We'll be talking about how brexit has changed. Politics takes the northwest asking whether the red will really."