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Close to closing it. And then I get a call at 6 p.m. yesterday. Saying they have a land deal. So I'll allow for you to decide who's at fault. Now she was not mincing words when she talked about the a's not playing fair, although she's willing to listen if the a's came back to the table, but for now it looks like they have a deal to build in Vegas. Now, if you look at the Nevada media, it's not a done deal. It's not all honky Dory. The a still want $500 million in taxpayer dollars to pay for infrastructure improvements, but despite this being an ongoing threat in Oakland that the a's would leave. Oakland is not unique. It just feels like it. And that's why this new book by Andy dowlish and Dave newhouse, the goodbye Oakland, winning wanderlust, and the sports towns fight for survival is so heartbreaking for me as an ace fan and as a taxpayer and someone who just simply loves baseball. You've been down this road before. Yeah, yeah. And this doesn't necessarily mean all hope is lost because everybody sort of feels that way. And they're talking that way. But if I hear Andy correctly, it may not be that way. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's especially striking and your book Andy gives a good sense of this. Because this is a town where people are incredibly passionate about their sports. They're loyal in a way that you just don't see really anywhere else. Maybe you could start us off by talking a little bit about what makes Oakland unique as a sports town. When I first moved here at the end of 1980 when I was hired by the Haas family and incidentally just a number, the Haas family bought the Oakland a's from Charlie Finley, who was taking the team out of town. They were going. They were gone to Denver. I don't think they went. So this comes back in a discussion. And I was amazed. I had never been out here. Like, where did you get this Lake merit? How did you build montclair and Piedmont? What about this Jack London square thing and the water? How beautiful it is that people with real money live in Oakland so they can look at San Francisco. And the theaters, all of the incredible positive nature, Oakland is a gutty, Gritty town. And I say that in the most positive sense, but over time it's had a high level of low self esteem in my view for no good reason. I was absolutely enthusiastic to come here. And the a's had reached a nadir at that time. No season tickets, Holly was only 12 years old at that time, I think. No season tickets, no sponsorships, no radio, no nothing. And in a year later, we created Billy ball and had massive crowds at the coliseum. So what can be done what has been done can be done? You worked with the, well, the Haas family hired you. Correct. And I'm curious as to what makes good ownership. It's really simple, ladies and gentlemen, teamwork, leadership and trust. If you take those three elements and it doesn't have to just be sports, it could be any area of business. And if you analyze Oakland over the last few years, they don't have all three, not even close. And that needs to be team ownership, the league, the business community, the fans, the media community, what you need is a commitment and the hostages had it. We are private owners. These teams are all owned privately, but we believe you, the fans, own it with your hearts, minds, and souls. And that's what Walter Haas Wally has and Roy eisenhardt basically infused in all of us, and it made literally an overnight difference. What I've always looked at is sports teams, especially the coliseum, they represent the town square of the community, where people of every part can get together and not care who they are and love their team. They might have a difference of opinion if another team is sitting next to them. But that town square aspect is what quality owners understand and what those that are just looking to increase their net asset appreciation. They don't get it. All right, well, a lot more to dig into in this conversation. Real quick for anybody just joining us. This is kcbs and depth. I'm Keith manconi, joined by KCB S anchor Holly Kwan. Today with the a's apparently headed for the door out of Oakland. We're trying to make sense of it all with Bay Area sports insider Andy dolis, who just co wrote a new book called goodbye Oakland, winning wanderlust and a sports town's fight for survival. And it has been a long fight spanning the decades really, this is just the latest chapter. Whether we're talking about the Raiders, there was a going and a coming and a going in and coming or whether we're talking about the warriors, this is a story that has had many chapters to it, and part of why you say that Oakland and other people have said that Oakland is one of the most disrespected sports town towns in the country. To help us understand what's happening now, you're somebody with such a deep insight as somebody who's worked in the front office at so many sports organizations around the Bay Area. To help us understand what's happening now. Maybe you could shed some insight on the history that we're coming from. Where would you point us in terms of the history of Bay Area sports to understand the course that Oakland has been treading? Well, first of all, a lot of people don't understand the Bay Area. They live in their little communities, you know, where is Marin county, right? When people first come here or the new weather person goes and the temperature in San Rafael is 82°, where is the Silicon Valley? It's a big place. This has so much strength

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