Marijuana, Kevin, Appropriations Committee discussed on Indiana Issues
My backdrop. My wife. Somebody get some paper anyway. So, um, uh, you know, I When you talk about taxes and increasing taxes on cigarettes, it just takes Me back to conversations we had about the cigarette tax when I first came in, and the revenue from the tobacco settlement Uh, right along the same lines with these guys on the on the call. You got a look at where the revenues gonna go first, and I think we need to do that first. When we're talking about increasing attacks. Where are we going to do with the revenue? The second thing if we if you if you are fiscally responsible use better not think about using that. As a source of revenue for the general fund. Because it's fluctuate. And as you know all that don't do in the first, like speaker Houston said the first month or so we'll get the most driven it then it'll go down. And then what'll happen is You know, you got people who will go to the cheaper former tobacco which could be even more unhealthy. You got on all these other uses of the tobacco funds, and one of them definitely should be. The direct use in communities that have been disadvantaged for a long time for communities and you know, regardless of what the outcome is, you know. Uh, minority later, Jim Clinton. I unfortunately are in a position. Where were the super minority? So whatever these guys decide, I haven't seen language either. I just asked that the community entities that have been hard the most by smoking are thought of when they comes to the revenue that they're gonna use it for the money that they're gonna use the revenue for Yes, Thanks, And I'll close out this this question. Just a reminder for those who maybe didn't hear earlier is, Kevin said it in the chamber presentation. And as we've done over the last few years, the business community position is this is needed to help improve healthcare outcomes, totally understand the revenue and designating how that used but the first of four most from at least the chamber in the business community standpoint, is trying to improve the health care situation. Any Tom Tom guy had one thing to that. Well, like they say so. So again. I think we all agree on the public policy aspect of it. You know, I think the again that a challenge noticing the pandemic is, um And we have to be thoughtful about us. You know, we we have We know we have tremendous costs. Healthcare costs, they're gonna continue. I mean, right now, our Medicaid budget. Expands, You know it pays frank, frankly greater than our economic growth. And, you know, we have to figure out in look holistically at all Those factors, including revenue, clean public policy, including health, because if we don't do that, in the pathway that were on, and we're not the only state where one of the 50 that have the same problem staring in a sort of face. You know, it's gonna be hard, if not impossible to fund other things that all matter, America all it's like K 12 education like I read like, uh, infrastructure and in other health care services, So I think you know, that's where I want to say like, you know, we can't It's easy taken in They can choose and look at things in the vacuum, which is totally appropriate again. We we've had this discussion and we'll continue to have this discussion. I happened that you think you know there's a public policy tonight to which I think the chambers has argued. Well, um and then you know, But the other side of the equation is hugely important to fund the types of things that I know are important in E. T O. The folks on this call and folks throughout the city of India. Senator Taylor has his hand up. Yes, talk. Okay, So this is the danger of having a new member who's not used to this and probably I'm probably a 60 70% chamber percentage right now, which is above 50%. So I think you should be happy with You. You know, I heard Kevin earlier, uh, in my opinion. Uh, talk about an issue that we could all get on board with and that's medical marijuana. The implementation of many medical or recreational marijuana. In Indiana would raise more money. In any cigarette tax that we could ever think about. And either way, even we regulate it. We're just going to see a whole bunch of people. We're going to continue to spend money to fight medical, marijuana or recreational marijuana. So not only are we losing on the revenue side, but we're paying for people to be in jail. Because they have a small amount of marijuana in a lot of community. So you know if we're gonna put all our cards on the table here right way could talk about cigarette tax, but we need to talk about the surrounding states. And what they've done. They were, I believe somewhere around 23 states that have referendums on their ballot. Yeah. All of it past positive in this country, So we're gonna be out here on the island by ourselves. And we speaking of smoke, uh, that's one of the smokes that would raise raise a lot of revenue. A satyr Taylor. I want to get you a couple questions from some of our listeners today. Um, e think I know the answer to the first one. But again, I let the legislators kind of reframe it as they see fit. The question is, how involved are the legislators. The new legislators elected just two weeks ago, expected to be in the process of creating the two year budget and redistricting. I know there's a lot of experienced hands, probably playing a larger role in that, But so the Braille I'll ask you about blue members coming in. And then kind of how you how you get them at cremated what some of their key roles will be well, so it's a great question and getting getting the new members kind of up to speed quickly for us is really important. And it's it is a challenge because just figured out where the restrooms are is the first of the first order of the day and organizational day. But you know, you will find that the people that come unto us come to us with very backgrounds and varied experiences. So some I have a lot of financial experience can get their hands around a very competent process a little more quickly than others and On dit takes a while, You know, obviously the O b the Senator Mishler or you need to get on the Appropriations Committee. Those first those senators that are just coming into having won an election. Lisa. Uh oh, side of the aisle arc the sitting on appropriations right now. But it's not to say that they don't have a second particular caucus about what those issues are and what those caucus on what's gonna be in the budget, and we discuss those in a lot of fine detail, and everybody in that caucus room has the ability to The way in with their perspective and to change some of the policy that we've got as we as we look over that budget so well, there were there. The new senators. Impact won't be nearly as visible as center, miss slurs or other people there on the Appropriations Committee. There's no doubt at all that they're for their fingerprints will be on it as well, because we're going to take their thoughts and the expertise that they bring. The other aspects to there'll alive into the state house. We're gonna put those to use so the plan is rope for us. Bye. Good. Good. Oh, no. No, Speaker, please. So, Yeah, I've told our new members that this is such a challenging year to be your first session. I'm sure Rod filling Greg feel that same way. I mean, you know, nothing is normal. It Z gonna be harder to interact to build relationships..