Rodney Scott, Tijuana, San Diego discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

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Dot org. John welcome back to the show. It's great to have you. Thank you. So first of all let me ask you you just yesterday were embedded with border patrol agents. Tell us a little bit about what you saw. And what they were telling you about how they see this crisis. If if they even do see a crisis at the border. Yeah. It's every sector of the southwest border is a little bit different magnetic. And so the situation over here is rather different from what we're seeing for instance, in New Mexico where you have these large groups of migrants, lots of children traveling without parents and families crossing and some of them very ill and growing even sicker in in these Spartan border patrol facilities. That's over you know, west of El Paso out here in San Diego. I spent seven hours with a couple of agents yesterday, and we drove literally from one end of the sector to the other. It's about sixty miles long. And it's so interesting because really I I kind of felt like the ride along that I had was playing off of the president's emphasis in his national address from the Oval Office on the need for a border wall. What you have out here is. A sort of a show Intel of what a wall accomplishes. We we can remember those iconic image is back in the eighties of mainly Mexican immigrants who were all sort of trotting across the hills. You know, just off imperial beach headed toward San Diego and ages could do very little to stop on. We'll since then they have these really formidable walls that they are you see them under construction. He's eighteen foot tall a steel bollards filled with concrete and rebar with these anti climb sheets at the top and varied six feet in the ground. And so they wanted to show that here these walls work, and they really do divert illegal Crushers into other areas, but in terms of humanitarian crisis, which is what you asked me right across the border in Tijuana, which is Mexico's sixth largest city, you have still around two thousand migrants from the Central American caravan who've now been there a going on two months and. Conditions are not good there rather squalid in some of the ref refugees some of the shelters that I visited and so they continue to wait their turn in line trickle into the United States and to cross illegally. Okay. So I definitely want to hear more from what you saw in Tijuana. But but let's play a little bit of tape from from chief patrol agent. Rodney Scott who you spoke with when you were embedded with border patrol. And he told you I he thinks the agency needs more fencing when it's expensive and that agents already have operational control. He said to you if I understand this correctly between Tijuana and San Diego. So here's chief patrol agent. Rodney Scott customs, and bore protection has had this systematic plan that we've been acting on for years building out infrastructure where we believe we need it. And all of a sudden, it got unbelievably political overnight as opposed to what we're saying that we need so John tell us more about what Rodney Scott was telling you about that. He feels. It's got an unbelievable political. Right..

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