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"This. This is your laboratory we've just come into very busy and crowded laboratory, we've test tubes. Centrifuges all kinds of bottles. This is oil research. Nice to meet you your name. Sorry. My name's name one. And I'm currently the system professor score Chinese medicine the university of phone call. This is somewhat the materials were using are worse than and do not this. What is well. This is a pestle and mortar here, and you mixing something up. This is a tissue belbow. His mic by some come house Nome and Essex of bell and people mix. Some colossus grew slighted in nature about Essex. Okay. So you wanted to make as much as possible to look like the original as well as. In the Chinese medicine practice other scientific institutes are also researching and trying to develop synthetic alternatives to American laboratories in Seattle and San Francisco trying to bio engineer rhino horn. The Taiwanese council of agriculture is testing herbs seeds as a substitute for the scales of the pangolin otherwise known as the scaly anteater. The pangolin has the dubious distinction of being the most traffic mammal in the world and across the South China Sea. From Hong Kong is one of its last remaining refugees in Asia. I am Dr Sabina shop, I'm part of Catala foundation. And I'm running the following pangolin conservation program pangolins in general, you know, that are in a critical situation. There are eight species worldwide, the and pangolins just one of them one of four he and Asia and populations are decreasing and we might face local extinction. Eventually, if no management activities will take place who is catching by local communities, usually. So they go out usually in the night the dog sniffs the pangolin runs and what family into generally do if they are scared. They roll into a ball. And then the hunter tries to follow his dog and just grabs the pangolin food sits in the sack and tries to get another one this kale. Most probably all leave the country because they are going to be processed in China in traditional Chinese medicine is even when. Or if synthetics found the next obstacle is to market them. Conservation organizations have launched a campaign in China. Enlisting the help of a list celebrities. Woman guy showed a waste. Quiz young Chechen. Thi this is a TV commercial by popular Hong Kong actress because by the delightful name of Angela baby say, no to pangolin product. She says when the buying stops the killing can too. Yells. Troop E mail that night Janusche high. Diogo Verissimo a post talk with the UK's Oxford Martin program on the illegal wildlife trade is researching how best to get that message across if your audience is all about in traditional medical practices going up to them and saying those practices. I not proven to work. That's going to improve your health. That's going to be an adversarial message. That's not going to get through. But of course, if you frame, it has these practices will only survive as long as the species, they're based on also does now all of a sudden, you have a connection, and you care about the same thing in only this together reinforce, this importance of really understanding who you're talking to and what they care about not what we care about what daycare at the Sydney institute of traditional Chinese medicine in the heart of Chinatown CEO. Ye fan Yang agrees that TC 'em needs to be put on a firm scientific footing. But he believes scientific studies shouldn't always take precedence over tradition. Something we trust something. We done because we still based on clinical experience and without your traditional side says yet, but even if the results show something I trust the tradition, in some cases, we still based on this tradition. Some cases we totally follow up. The new scientific research example the economics. They are poison. They are banned in Australia in this case, we agree that, and then we chant another way try to do some substitute young is quick to point out that he agrees with the ban on using parts of endangered animals, and he wants to see more substitutes developed, but practitioners still have to persuade people in other countries to use them and more importantly except scientific evidence where it shows that animal parts have no proven benefit whatsoever. Conservationists say it's a race against time before a number of key species, a lost forever pinhead. Field for the side show on roaming around the globe in this program."