Officer, Seattle Police Department, Seattle discussed on Tom and Curley


That I think is an interesting that it's a bit like the mayor had has had that one program in In, you know, sort of early rounds the first year this past year that we were moving in this direction and what like with a lot of things. It seems to me like this present crisis of situation we're under has just accelerated what was already kind of evolving eventually. And that's absolutely true. You know, and I and I pointed it out before there's a lot the Seattle police Department and the mayor have done of the city. SPD has one of the best crisis intervention units. I've gone out and met with those guys. In fact, they were was this year Last year they were the The host for the National Convention for that type of policing, which not everybody in the country has, in fact fair if you have, so they're kind of the national leader. As far as that goes, they've made a lot of progress. It's not at the level of progress that everyone thinks is necessary. And that's why you see this current conversation going on but least, Dugard said, Absolutely. This was kind of something they envisioned possibly happening 10 years ago when this program started, all right. Hey, by the way, did you cover the police that are meeting over there? Ah to speak about the funding you on that wonder that was other group. I followed along with that I did, And that was the basically kind of a group of black police officers of it's an organization that they have in Seattle. That's been around for quite some time. And they wanted to talk about the de funding. And there was people came in kind of a city kind of teaching and more kind of listening and Some of the big takeaways I took away. There was one black officer who was talking about the criticism and and he said that he takes the most criticism from other black people in the community when he's out there being an officer And it wants to kind of again open that dialogue, really make sure that everybody understands the kind of policing that's going on. I understand that there are offers. Did you go to meet with youth in the community and engage with youth in the community and try to do their part, too? Close the gap. If you will, the distance between communities of color and police and tryto make it so both sides confessed one another again. There's there's actively things like that going on. No, I'm sorry. Good times has a nice little write up about that. They talked to this guy. He's a 44 year old who's always seen the enemy has seen the cops is something of The enemy that they've always has with him all his life and he was at this meeting and said, This is really good, he says. It's It's good for us to realize that the cops do Mohr than just the interaction they have with us, which they you may feel individually is unfair that they're all doing a lot of things with the youth programs and the like. So it's a kind of a I don't know how effective it is, he said. There were more cops of this meeting than there were community members, but still at least the people they profiled in Seattle times that, Yeah, This was a good outreach program that made them, you know, consider reconsider their their stance toward police. And I think that's important that you need to have both sides this thing to the other and and be willing to listen and not just hold firm understands their examples of you know terrible things like George Floyd, and they're definitely local examples. Recent local examples in the Puget Sound area that are, you know federal way about Malik Williams. There there many of these types of cases, but both sides have to be willing to listen to the other and realized That many officers are doing great things in the community. There's 10 million arrests a year. It's a very small fraction, 10th of a percent that gets into where you actually have. Additional problems at the time of the arrest in Seattle leads the way of most cities in the United States with and this goes even back to a study of 2000 that they compared all those cities about the same size and they found Seattle When it came Tio, using a use of force was leading the way in not actually pushing too much pressure on the individuals being arrested, but Again that those air fax and those don't always have a place in the conversation. I read something I thought was pretty interesting regarding authority. And they said What is the difference? I hear you sniff in time you get into the next yourself there. When a parent starts to scream and yell at the referee during a football game or an empire being yelled at a little league game. What happens is the kids begin to not pay attention or respect the umpire or the referee. So controlling the parents from yelling helps to control the Children's behavior on the field regarding the authority figure. So if you go into a game, and the parent yells at the authority figure than the kid has no respect for the authority figure, and they say that same thing translates into a black community. The reason the person being stopped by the cop is less likely to obey the rules of that police officer because they start off in the car with little or right. No respect for that police officer to begin with. Now whether the officer deserves it or not the person in the car this comes in with a bias against the officer. So when the officer asked for compliance, they're less likely to comply..

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