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And has been awesome supporter somehow slurs and has had a lot of side hustlers events at her store and I was there with king five and we were shooting a what's trending which aired weekly at the time and we were and this is for NBC and we're filming different things that Chandan had in a layer and she was like you have to wear this necklace this girl's awesome she's a local mom here in west Seattle and her products are amazing and it was this I think I wore Cheryl during the concrete okay yes so I wore the concrete circle necklace on TV and I obviously fell in love with sand and a layer that day and continue going back I'm always looking at these necklaces from minority made and it was a I remember one is it I'm going to buy this and never normally buy jewelry because I have so much of it and we go to all these events were gets gifted to us and I fell in love and just kept buying all of Cheryl stuff so that's why I'm so excited for in here this month because she's a mom time mom with really awful time business also it's almost not a side hustle so the way we've connected is crazy we're gonna get more into all the connections that have come out of us knowing each other but I've met your amazing product before I met you which is crazy to think about there are no totally and if you're always going I love and ironically not at the moment I was like oh this is so weird that you're in here today and I have it on every day but not right now it's okay Rowan so based off your acts and we all know you're not from America so how did you get here during my undergraduate in Belfast so I was a finer major and there was this thing called the B. I'd that business education initiative the our people from Northern Ireland with colleges anyway and so you had to apply for it and I got it for business like a one year diploma and so they asked you you get to kind of select work well we thought we could select where we wanted to go of course I said New York which you know I ended up there anyway but they sent me to Missouri so it's like a little town I was a literal America yeah Midwest they sent me to a little town called Saint Charles Missouri just outside of St Louis so yeah I I study business for year went back home finished my undergraduate then you know after graduation I was you know selling my paintings in our galleries and kind of working full time as a visual merchandiser and window dresser at a department store I was doing both of those I was like painting on the weekends and working full time and then I was like okay like what else is not it you know I kind of had a taste of kind of being in America and you know even though business was not my thing I was like well how do I get back and it's like I don't have any money hi so I you know obviously I had the money that I was making selling paintings and you know my full time job and so I contact my school and I was like Hey I want to come back but can you offer me like part scholarship so I can pay for tuition and like yeah do monsters because I wanted to do a masters in fashion like if I had to do that back home I would prefer to start like with that undergraduate for something you know yeah so they offered me the part part scholarship I literally only because I worked a ton of hours at the president's office at school I probably only had to pay like six dollars out of pocket for masters I worked so hard and I literally whatever's savings I had from like when a saved in Belfast I like to get with me and I gave it all to them and then you and then I did you get to New York okay so my my boyfriend at the time was like Hey so if you're starting fashion like and you want a job on fashion you should probably go to New York like you should try to get an internship and you are trying to get you out of there that's what I thought I was like what your try you like you're gonna send me away when he saw what you gonna do you gonna stay here I was like what and he was like no he's like I think it's like that's what you need to do like what you gonna do after you finish your masters of Mike he's right so I can run today Deanna like okay I'm gonna start applying for internships so I applied for life for three internships actually wanted with them was and went back to Johnson I might professor had said to me don't take that one she will make you sweep the foreign for coffee like anything like a smaller place that's going to you really use two and that really need here in it's going to like teach you all kinds of stuff and so I chose to smaller ones and I got a job out of one which later today so is a smaller contemporary designer was tons of work but it kind of crash during the whole like recession I was the last one when things kind of close stop I was the last one mile out yeah so it was contemporary it was like cotton so it's very modern so it was after that job that you were sitting at a coffee shop right are now yeah so after that job I was like okay things aren't going well here I need to find a new job I was on a visa of course because I was you know I'm not a citizen or anything so they usually last three years so I was like I had a time frame on when I had to find another job otherwise I would have to leave the country so it was really stressful so I moved from their pre side to Long Island City with a friend of mine and I was at a coffee shop working on my portfolio calling recruiters you know making stuff happen.

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