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Moore of that is jack matlock who was still on the spot and the person who would have known because he was in moscow embassador for both president reagan and the first president bush he participated in these events and he had two books are reagan in gorbachev and a second book superpower illusions he argues and i would say more than argues he bears witness to the reality that the first cold war was ended not by defeating the soviet union but through negotiation a force reagan a gorbachev in the first bush should get credit and all threemen said when they declared the cold war to be over it it ended without winners and without losers let me repeat that that president reagan said and the first president bush initially said that that cold war had ended without winners and without losers joe it was nothing and in no way analogous to germany and japan after world war two now here you get into what is a kind of historians fetish but an important one winning exactly did this cold war end well according to president reagan initially the first president bush and grow trough in ending in either nineteen eighty nine or 1990 that is a full two years before the end of the soviet union itself lemme left at saint gan a fall two years before the soviet union ended in before anyone foresaw the end of the soviet union however what has happened in the intervening decades is if the two dates the end of the cold war let's just say early 1990 when an agreement about german reunification was may that was kind of the end of the cold war because germany had been the epicenter of the cold war.