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Taylor Swift, Hillary Clinton, Baldwin Baldwin discussed on Channel 33

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How do you feel about Hoshi behaved up until this point? I remember around two thousand sixteen people were like Taylor swift is, is a like should be held responsible for not being political, a political activists, sort of thing. People were really upset that she didn't endorse Hillary Clinton. I thought it was unfair to like, put that on her shoulders because she is not an activist. She's an entertainer. Obviously, I would have preferred if she had endorsed Hillary Clinton because she has fans, it could've made a difference. But I do think that like insisting that she'd become an activist was unfair to her, but I'm happy. She's doing it now like better late than never. I think to give some context here. So Taylor swift, not really again, tell. It's huge, pop star and in two thousand sixteen and beyond. But certainly in two thousand sixteen I think. You just are at this point in American culture where celebrities being these sort of quasi political figureheads lake people who expect Bano to tell them who to vote for even. I mean, you know. You know, it's I have not trusted that he put that U2. album on my iphone without my permission, I'm with I'm you. with you. But I think by the time, the twenty sixteen election arrives in American history, it feels like that's the norm. Yeah. And the Clinton campaign specifically, remember the last couple of weeks of that campaign. I remember there was this big rally in Ohio where Hillary Clinton brought like LeBron James JC beyond say, they're all these celebrities who were helping, you know, sort of like a little bit fundraising a little bit, get out the a little bit like pop culture, credibility of like Hillary Clinton's. Cool, right? And I, there's something I mean one, it's it's interesting to see that she had that that great star power in a way that Donald Trump did not. Yeah. He had like a guy from Liz. Yeah, he had the Baldwin's. He had the lesser Baldwin, the minor, Baldwin Baldwin, and probably the minor Walberg says, well, it's true. Hillary had like yet tons of all the Aila celebs backing her weight. You got Clooney out there stumping, right, totally. But it's it's weird to think that that's a thing to me and I think Taylor swift, it wasn't just that people were like, she's a huge pop star and she's not endorsing Hillary Clinton. It's that she looked so awkward because every other celebrity at that point it seemed had succumbed to that being an expectation of American culture that like celebrities are supposed to tell us how to feel about politics or they're supposed to amplify our thoughts and feelings about politics and our political imperatives. I'm just not comfortable with that, and I don't think Taylor swift is comfortable with it, and I don't know that I'm any more comfortable with it. Now, even though Taylor swift apparently is well. Okay. If you were like a super famous person, wouldn't you try to use your influence to advocate for like a better world? I do think that it's. A huge problem that like people are taking so many cues from celebrities, but I don't think celebrities themselves should be faulted for trying to use their platforms to say something of substance. That's absolutely right. Yeah, I agree with that. But I mean, I think the Taylor swift controversy from the two thousand sixteen election through now. It's not like people were talking about Telesystem. This way of Taylor believes this wasn't she speak out more about it. People in the very frantic way that fandom does everything. Phantom invented her politics out of thin air and then blamed her for not or to. You know what I mean? It was one of those things where it's it's not like people were sort of identifying something about Taylor swift and saying, you have a responsibility to promote. This. People were basically taking their own politics and assigning it to Taylor shift and then being mad at Taylor swift for not it. It didn't make a ton of sense to me. She left a blank space. All right. That's enough of that. I have a headline that reads like that. I remember you like back when all this was happening, you wrote some really smart analysis just about how skewed.