Dylan, Charlie Chaplin, Chaplin Keaton discussed on Mike Rosen
And now for Mandy Connell. We're talking about this really dramatic overwhelming documentary about the first World War, thou shall not grow old. Now, we've all seen Quentin Tarantino Tarantino movies and movies like that. With gratuitous gory violence. Here's a warning. This is a very gory movie in places UC corpses. On the battlefield actual corpses. People who die in the muck and mire and our left there since nobody can go out to no man's land. And drag them back you see the very first entry of tanks. Armored vehicles. Like this on the battlefield who go along their merry way. Trampling over the bodies that you've you've just seen. Knowing know that going in it's part of the first World War if that would be a disqualifier than don't see the movie if you want to bring your children to a movie like this, depending on their age know this in advance. But what they'd be seeing is the reality of a horrendous war on both sides, and it's different than movies that show blood and guts and combat me like saving private Ryan, the first ten or so minutes is sort of remarkable in that way. But this is real. And even though you don't have the gory close ups. It's still conveys the toll that it takes another quick point before we get started Samara callers. I was amazed toward the end the film. They talk about how the British soldiers chatted with the German soldiers who they who they do they captured. Yeah. And there wasn't much animosity there. They both were there. All just sick of the war. They hated the war. They could connect with these other people as human beings. I was amazing. And how convivial that they're there it they put they put the whole fight against they put out of the picture that. Hey, we're we all survived in this amazing. And I I the humanity. There was just stark from the testimony of some of the World War One veterans whose voices you'll hear they explain them when they return back to Britain, by the way, these were only British soldiers except for the German soldiers that are depicted in this documentary when these Brits, the veterans turned back came back to civilian society. They could talk about this only among themselves because they discovered that. Nobody else could possibly understand what they went through. I get that. And that's still happens today. We're veterans talked to veterans, but it sounds like they were either dismissed or treated badly for being a war veteran that I did not know that that that was jelly made the point that there were places where they couldn't get John get John. To combat veterans, go home. It was just amazing and the war the goriness of it was simply would not within the comprehension of the people who were back. They didn't know about how gory it was. And we heard about similar things with the Vietnam war when our soldiers will come back to the states and be and be treated badly because they thought what what they did what they didn't do what the image was that the that the veterans soldier here. That wasn't the case. It just didn't understand it. They didn't get it. I they weren't able to watch it on TV. Yeah. That's part of it. Too back in the early nineteen hundreds. There's one aspect of it. Beyond the film itself. That's fascinating to me. And that's the potential for this technical this new technical advance on other films, think of all the films that Charlie Chaplin. Buster Keaton did fast action acrobatic types of films that we really haven't been able to appreciate up to now because of the nature of silent film itself. Now, we can see the way they were really intended for the first time the future for restoring a lot of silent films is limitless. But that also begs the question, what is the is this new artist who's recreating it? Are they keeping in the faith of a Charlie Chaplin? I mean, this is still a matter of interpretation, which is interesting, I meant that they shouldn't do agree. But if you had a new generation of artists reinterpreting an old generation of artists, there's some well all licensed all they would be doing is restoring it to normal. Motion. Okay. I wouldn't even get into the colorization report any of that other stuff just the normal motion making silent films, look like modern films. Will not be affecting anything in the film itself, except it will allow us to see what Chaplin Keaton had in their minds when they did the shoulders. The soldiers talk about how they fried bacon on the front lines. Their method of warming up water for T via machine guns that were water cooled. How they went to the bathroom, and there's a scene. This gives feel the trains a bad name. The the army. There's one. When when scene where you're watching these fellows from behind sitting on a on a log. I won't say anymore. In any event. Talk about and that's the lack of dental care. World War One participants unless you were born with perfect teeth, you had horrible horrible teeth. And which is interesting because they're all given a toothbrush and they didn't use it on their teeth. Obviously, they use to clean their buttons. Yeah. You see rats fat rats feasting on on the bodies lice? They worked diligently to remove the lights from their bodies. And then the eggs left behind hatching the license role there the next morning, and how tough it was even to get some sleep. It was the matter of fact approach the way they described it which shocked me as they just said, this is what we needed to do to survive. It's it's it's how humans can just persevere in any situation. And they all seem to be happy. They went through the experience was a profitable experience for their lives. All right. Let's let's check in with a couple of members of the Mike Rosen club like Rosa movie club who have seen the movie and would like to share their appraisal of it with us. Let's start with Dylan. What did you think of a Dylan thought, it was a carefully crafted piece of documentary cinema focused on real history and the emotions resident people who've lived through those events technically impeccable was non narrated as marvelous and really draining me. Entirely draining is a good word, you really gonna walk out of the theater thing. A bit woozy. Did it we're we're kinda lavishing praise on the film Dylan his anything you thought could have been done differently or better. I mean I for a documentary. It was just so marvelous I I don't really know much better. Maybe it'd be patient could have. Could've ended a little better. I don't know. But at the ending credits song fantastic. Well, you didn't want it to end with the Germans winning. Did you? I kinda liked that part of the actually neither side one. Who was an armistice? Yeah. I thought the film is maybe a tad repetitive at times just because there was it was just the sort of the trench warfare. And it didn't have a narrative flow. I think toward the end. It's would have picked up a bed nNcholas show different elements their best mile a very mild. Critique what what element of the movie impacted you the most the visuals the sound the anecdotes what what jumps out tilling, probably individuals and semantic goes. But I thought I really showcase companionship and the youth of these men alongside the horrors and traumatic spectacle of war. There was a couple of images white men drowning in mud and rotting flesh foods sell probably stick with me for a while. And the whole mud thing the mud being so must impossible to remove your boots out of and speaking in some places, it was like quicksand. Yes stepped into the mud, and it pulled you wonder, and you couldn't escape by the way. When I said neither side one warriors ended with an armistice. However. Massive reparations were imposed on Germany and in essence World War. Two is the continuation of World War run one because of how how poorly the piece was handled. Yeah. Winning side. I've read it. This was from history dot com. That's sixteen million that's civilians. That's also combatants. But it sounds like they were other other things that kind of compounded the death toll to so. All right. The most important piece that was just like when you watch this film. You're looking into the living faces real people real terror. Well, we're going to give a let's have Dylan give his ranking right now, we may have to wait to the break, we generally, right? This on a scale of one of one to five using a clever and relevant unit of measure that something to do with the movie what you're taking four and a half. Peter Jackson passion project satisfied. That's good. Very good. All right. Well, even when you reward is tickets to these see film center on colefax, a wonderful place to see movies have a drink have a bite to eat also checkup free solo one of the documented movie the documentary movies nominated for best picture this year. Chozas passes. All right. Thank you Dylan. We'll take a break here. Check in with Ted another member of.