Listen: Martha Mardi Goddard, Assault, Rape discussed on Stuff You Should Know
"Within another year. It started to spread around the country. Yeah. And just I mean, it sounds like it's hard to believe but just collecting and having the tools in a box and collecting the evidence putting it in a box for storage just that alone coming around. Went along way toward helping victims be taken seriously, legitimising, rape and sexual assault. Yeah. I mean, it's sad. But that's that's the case when they were first brought out there were called vitucci locates in a lot of circles V, I T U ELO and Louis or Lewis never know. I'm thinking since season Chicago, Louis Luo, really thought you were gonna say Louis because you're gonna go I think it'd be I e if it were in Chicago Louis. All right. Well, we'll go Louis. Let's just calm Chicago. Lou Chicago Lou too low now, he sounds like a mobster. Yeah. Chicago loop Dula. I think the two really not helping now, but he was not a mobster. He was actually worked in the Chicago PD's forensic crime lab, he was a sergeant and Lieutenant who did not invent the rape kit. But he was charged with sort of codifying it and putting his stamp because he was one of the first people in. In law enforcement, and that was trying to create a standardised procedure. Yeah. He was already a very well respected forensic investigator. Yes. So for him to say, hey, I'm a big city for into investigator widely respected in this thing is the bomb. Yeah. This is a great invention. We should all start using it. And here's how it really helps spread and give it a boost early on. But even though they were called Fatullah kits. There's there it's it's not to say like he was like, yeah. I invented this. Not at all. I think he was just. Known in the mind of other law enforcement agents that they associated him in in these kits. So that's what everybody else called it. But really if you want to nail down an inventor of the rape kit. It was a woman named Martha mardi Goddard. Yeah. Goddard and the two law writ some interviews with his grandkids. And it's like a really proud legacy. They still get letters from people women Goddard as she has unplugged. Like saw one interview with her where they talked about in. We're going to cover this later, but the the kit backlog, she didn't even know about it because she's like, no TV internet. No newspapers. She really just sort of checked out. Right. And she was like that's really sad to hear about that. It is very sad. So I saw a quote somewhere that I think is Fatullah grandkids said that that he would be spinning grave if you knew about this backlog, which will get to later so Goddard was a survivor. Of sexual assault in she got together with some other victims. Basically the writing was on the wall like that, you know, things weren't being taken seriously in many police departments. She saw firsthand that like that that they weren't collecting evidence correctly that they weren't they weren't taking it seriously, which is still a huge problem. Right. And she's she decided to do something about it. Well, the first questions and still in a lot of areas. Probably the first question still are like, well, what was the situation while rand wearing it if it starts with well, I met a guy to bar, then you're sort of discounted right out of the gate. Yep. Very very sad and very unfair. She formed a group called citizens for victims assistance in the nineteen seventies. And went to work like she said she was doing sixteen hour days. Visiting hospitals talking to cops go into police stations lawyers. Judges basically learning and working on everyone. She could. About how to get a better system going, right? But she needed money, and she got that from of all places the playboy foundation. Hugh Hefner's foundation. His daughter Christie was friends with mardi Goddard. And they think playboy gave her ten grand which is equally about forty two grain in today's money. Yeah. And that was enough to go. Start assembling these kids because one of the points from the outset of these these kits was that they be inexpensive because hosp they they wanted to remove as many barriers as possible for hospitals to start MB ending their simmered widely and one one really easy way to do. It was to say here, these are virtually free, or in some cases, these are free because this community group raised a bunch of money to purchase the implements of the kits put them all together. And now here you're you just use them. That's all which is a success story in and of itself when you know how like big pharma works in the medical community in America like. I could have seen this being like, well, these swabs and envelopes and combs this'll be seven thousand dollars right per kit. Yes. Because we put it on Obama's for you, mardi gutter got in the way of that from the outset and still to this day. I mean, that's why they're not any more than five to twenty five dollars even from like a medical supplier. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. She's a hashtag hero. We doing that. Now. Hashtag in it. Yeah. Relate to the game. My friend has always. Have you heard about attach take thing? Sure. You gotta go to fingers on each hand. Hashtag. See a need a funny in there. So the they were developed before DNA evidence was even around. So this was back when it was just like hair, and fiber fingernails and stuff like that still very valuable, and I think one of the kits that sort of common. These days is what's known as the southwestern sexual assault evidence collection kit, this the gold standard, I guess so and it's called south western obviously, it was in Texas. The attorney general's office there in nineteen ninety eight kind of created this one, and that's sort of like you said the one that people look to or base there's on. Yeah. Because I mean, they took the groundwork that mardi gras came up with going from to olive what you'd call in the the corporate world in Busby. All the stakeholders in the process of apprehending and convicting people who are who sexually assault other people. Yeah. You know scumbags. You can just say monster. Yeah. Monsters, and she figured out exactly how to put together and laid the groundwork from what I understand in the late nineties, the Texas. The the Texas attorney general's office said, let's let's let's purifies. Let's let's make it even better like using what we know. And then that's what's in use largely today. Although you're gonna find different kids. There's no there's no actual standards of defacto standard, right? And in the same point different hospitals, you go so even in the same state or you're gonna follow slightly different procedures. They might you slightly different kits. Yeah. But some k- some states have said no this is important enough. Like, here's how you do. This. Here is the law of how you conduct a rape kit examination. Yeah. And so got hurt inventory low. You know, his stamp of approval her working hard to get these things, you know, built from the ground up the work that they did together was like really set the standard in the late seventy. As for this across the country, just becoming just more a more normalized way to collect evidence. Knin take it more seriously. Right. It was a big big deal. Big one. Yeah. Not just literally having, you know, all of the implements you need to conduct this investigation. But just the very presence of these sexual assault evidence. Collect yet. It's the fact that they exist says law enforcement saying, okay? Yeah. This is a bigger deal than we've been treating it. Right. You gonna take a break. Yeah. Let's do it. We're gonna take a break everybody. I don't know if you just heard but won't be right back."