Canada, Mr Spock, Africa discussed on ONE Energy
Pincher. Creek. But but the second piece is, how do you store that energy? And Battery technologies have improved dramatically. But. They require rare earths then have their own environmental impact. Oh Yeah. People assume that if I drive a E. V. and electric vehicle that I'm being greener than green but if you look at you know how lithium. And other cobalt. Yeah. How all of that's mind that also leaves a tremendous environmental impact from the mining activity for those rare earths and and human rights I think I might add especially coming a lot of that stuff comes out of Africa. So. Yeah I think to build on we you're saying. I the the thing that I always tried to help people understand that is frustrating to me that I actually really loved it. This documentary that came out earlier this year, the Mike Moore's one I don't remember the to remember the title title. Recall. I really appreciated that the the narrative was considered the whole life cycle like if we're gonNA talk about energy like just because it produces clean energy right now you know that it's wind and solar. Where did you source those materials where? Are they coming out of out of where you putting them when they're done and I think that that is an important conversation to further on if I might add what do you think about that? Well, I think I think the premises correct we have to look at. The the overall life cycle right and things that we think are good are not always good sure or not as good as we think they are. Right. But. Another area that you know we're this trump some. Some and technology is. A is in extraction of hydrogen. Okay tell me about that. Well, move a little bit closer to the soul if you. If you if you look at the possibilities for hydrogen. And hydrogen fuel cells. If you use a hydrogen fuel cell to power your vehicle, the only emission that comes out of it is. Water humidity. It's right water. And that that has some interesting possibilities and they're. Clever, sausages they're on the idea that we can put. We can put electricity in the ground and through a process of trials we can. We can break the chemical bond between hydrogen and and the carbons. And recovered the hydrogen leaves the carbon in the ground right? Wouldn't that be an amazing thing? Yeah and So. So the so this is another area where. It would be remarkable. To create. The public policy. That would be required to establish hydrogen fuel stations across the country. And, it's not impossible I. mean it took one hundred years for us to build the infrastructure to us. You know gasoline and diesel across the country. It won't take one hundred years to develop the infrastructure for hydrogen if that's the direction that we go a but. It will take some time. but the technology has tremendous possibility and I think probably is better than the idea of setting up. Stations charging stations across country right how how have you maintained such a cool head through all this a lot of the subjects we've already talked about trigger people so quickly. How you especially being in politics like you must deal with such emotional emotionally chart subjects. How do you maintain that level headed objectiveness in your thinking? I. Watched a lot of Star Trek when I was a kid. I was always. I was always impressed with Mr Spock. So Mr, spock would always look at the data you know emotion would never come into. His equation as to what was right and what was wrong. Sure. So. Gene Roddenberry and in many ways was a great optimistic future. If if you looked at, you know the things that he talked about the social issues, the technical issues. I mean do we have? teleportation now? No but. I mean, three D. Printing is about as close as we might get already. Amazing. And so as a futurist, he was very optimistic about the future and I think it's a sense of optimism that I have. That allows me to look at things objectively say you know what? Let's? Put the emotions aside we need to acknowledge them, I think it's important that we acknowledge that people have strong feelings about the environment that people have strong feelings about first nations. Rights in the we have strong feelings about. About Energy and we acknowledged those things and then we say, okay. Now let's sit down and talk about solutions. Let's not be in the business of just. Winning an argument, but to try and solve a problem right, I'm interested in solving problems now, just doing winning an argument. What needs to change to bring more people to the table to want to do that to want to actually have a conversation to figure out the future instead of just trying to to win. The. United States. Partisanship has gotten so strong. I mean. A couple of senators that I knew, Orrin Hatch was a senator from. From Utah. Okay he was a good friend of Ted Kennedy. So. One's a Republican one's a Democrat, but they did a lot of bipartisan stuff to get. They were friends. And the the mere fact that you would fraternize with somebody from another party you know might upset your applecart and trying to get nominated for for your own party in your own state now. It's not as bad in candidates. It's it's not like it used to be but. But I think in Canada we still have. More people. That are interested in. Solving problem than just winning an argument I've been to I've had the good fortune. You know in my in my life to travel it every province and territory of Canada socal I've met people from all political stripes from. From from the Bloc Quebecois to. Federal Conservatives Liberals and. In, the provinces and territories and Green Party members. I want to tell Canadians. You should be very pleased that that so many smart people get elected my. Parties of all political stripes. Canadians. Really don't know that much about about. The characteristics of. Of the people that they elect other than what they read through the media if they met them in person I bet you'd like them. That's the reality interesting and I bet you. If you ask them, they are all interested in solving problems, not just winning arguments interesting, and so we just need to continue that kind of dialogue but this is what think-tanks can do this is. A group like Canada West Foundation been doing for fifty years is being safe place for people with different opinions to acknowledge the feelings of other parties.