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"Well I would think that if they were honest about it that sort of major investigation into the vice very simple answer. They should investigate the by the president said it'd himself Danna and yet yet newness and Jordan have come out with a report saying the facts. Aren't the facts. Black is white up is down. I mean I mean it's it's it's where we are unfortunately and This is why you know we have such a tribal tribal Situation here in Washington and across the country But they feed on each other. It's tribal in large part because you have reports reports like this which as you just played so well and showed so well it just does it match with the reality. That's that's in front of our face that at the president himself said so you know they took it this report you know maybe not just two steps too far ten steps too far because because they can because they believe that they can get away with it with the people that they care about the Republican base and history shows the current state of affairs shows that they're not wrong. I mean I this is the thing it David is so shocking about it. I mean we give you another one. Okay again a congressman newness and Jordan. The evidence does not support. The president. Trump orchestrated a shadow foreign policy apparatus for the purpose of pressuring Ukraine. To investigate for Reese Joe Biden Hunter Biden or Ukrainian influence. Okay they say this factually here is trump's million dollar donor. His Ambassador Gordon Silent under oath in response to our persistent efforts in that meeting to change his views. President trump directed us to quote. Talk with Rudy. Giuliani emphasized that the president wanted a public statement from presidents Alinsky committing Ukraine gene to look into the corruption issues. Mr Giuliani specifically bench. The two thousand sixteen election including the DNC server and Barista as two topics of importance to the president. I mean David. They explicitly say that. That didn't happen but he didn't ever Giuliani doing listen. I had nothing to do with threesome abiding Ukrainian influence and here. It is go. Talked Giuliani about the Ukrainian influence embarrassment. I think a lot of their argument comes down to what was the president's intent Versus what other people thought it was or Opinions of others on on what the president actually wanted. I think it's so clear based on the president's own words in the July twenty fifth phone call the sound bite you played from the South Lawn on the fact that he's the president of the United States and he's got a newly elected leader who is completely behold into the United States for existential aid aid to fight Russia on its eastern front that you will do what the president suggests you should do and it was to get dirt on by all of that is painfully clear. But we're not operating in a quarter law you know I feel like these reports are meticulously written legal briefs. But then somebody's GONNA stand stand up in front of the jury and unlike in a courtroom. There's not a judge is going to instruct the jury and charge them with what they have to consider based on the evidence to reach reach a verdict. Here it's the American people it's completely in the political domain and the way to kick up dust on this. It was written the Court of public opinion. Not The court of law for all the reasons that Erin just played it's it's so easily Contradicted by facts and it Ryan to that point you know. David raises the point. What is the intent of the president that they're trying to get at and they explicitly do? There is no direct first hand evidence of any such scheme. The Democrats are alleging guilt on the basis of hearsay presumptions and speculation rights of presumptions right. I think capturing David's point well they are presuming. What the president wanted when he he said something? What's your response to this argument at this point about hearsay given that we did not hear John Bolton or Mick Mulvaney or Mike pompeo Rudy Giuliani? Say what the president told them directly we have simply heard many other people say what those people told them. The president set directly right so even in a court of law. You could convict somebody of a crime for a lot of hearsay say evidence. There's been so much of that evidence that at some point accumulates under the proponents of the evidence and here. It's not a criminal proceeding. It's not beyond a reasonable doubt and it's only about whether or not you send the Senate for a trial. It seems easily crossed that threshold and then we do have some direct evidence. We have the phone call itself which is direct evidence released by the White House. We have people who are on the phone. Call all like lieutenant colonel of inman. WHO said that he understood it as a demand we have Sunland himself saying that. President instructed me that I must work with. Giuliani and Giuliani will convey his conditions and then Giuliani conveyed his conditions and we have Mick Mulvaney on national TV saying ever we did condition this security assistance on the investigation. Asian two thousand sixteen so that's overwhelming amount of evidence. That's why Judge Napolitano on Fox News said that he thinks it's an overwhelming amount of evidence in favor of impeachment. So I think that that's what the American public will be presented with and then on Wednesday they'll have constitutional law experts. Explain what the legal standard is So that they you can judge what is an abuse of power all right. I appreciate all of you very much. Thank you and next and ex. FBI lawyer targeted by President Trump is speaking out after two the era of her silence. The reporter who broke that story is my guest next and could be emlard win votes for Joe Biden. She'll run a Kazuki tour meeting. We're telling the truth for schools one national champion East sports most exciting game. Thank the Collegiate Rocket League National Championship returns to the East Stadium in Arlington Texas Tunin. TVs Friday December six at eleven pm. Eastern turn going on guys Mike. termine founder and corrector of China's forecast listened to friends and family a podcast beyond kicks in Chinatown market. And the only show where athletes artists and designers greet exclusive works together on every episode tonight breaking her silence former. FBI lawyer Lisa page so you remember her. She's the one who made headlines when her anti-trump text messages were made public and she is now speaking out and she's detailing what it has been like to be a constant target. Good if the president so we just do you don't fully remember at the text between page and former FBI agent. Peter Struck reveal that the two were having an affair. Okay so they were talking about things in the investigation and they were also having an affair and so president trump has seized upon that and obsessed about it struck or his lover for Lisa. Page the two great lovers if you look at struck if you look at his lover Lisa Page is wonderful lover Lee pay who was forced I believe the FBI her lover. Peter Struck phony people like McCabe and stroke and his lover yet. Lisa page his lover. I'll front now Molly Jong fast. The daily beast contributor who just interviewed Lisa Page and look. She said nothing to anybody so she she chose to speak to you and talk about this today. Today the president saw your story okay. He slams page goes on twitter and the tweet begins. When Lisa Page the lover of Peter Struck right more than thirty tweets thirty tweets? The president of the United States has sent about Lisa page using that word. But she tells you it. Was this moment. That made her choose to speak out now and decide talk. Here's the moment of forty-seven."