And of course that depends on your background if you do have a faith based background say or come from say indigenous first nation traditions. So there's a real diversity. Of course. But i also think there are some common threads and for example. I think common thread that almost everyone will talk about is the power of being involved in action with others of standing shoulder to shoulder of not feeling isolated. I think that That runs across many perspectives. I think another one is the realization that if we're going to travel through this hash new future in a reasonably resilient way we're going to have to think differently about the way we live in the world and i think across a lot of as traditions by secular and spiritual and religious the recognition that we can't keep we not certainly can't keep thinking that We can grow the economy endlessly on a finite planet. But we also need to and this comes through in many different philosophical and religious ecological perspectives. We have to learn that we are not above every other species. We depend on every other species where we're connected to the ecology of the planet on which we live. Now you're in australia. And you you quote from indigenous first nations people saying if we fail to care for country it cannot care for us. Tell us more about that. Yeah so as a non non-indigenous australian and i'm really aware that's my first house yet is to understand the ways in which Climate change impacts on indigenous communities in australia about many other places continues to intensify the legacies of colonial violence. And i think that's that's always. I think the first point in thinking about what i can learn if you like from indigenous communities and it's why as you noted before i think there's a strong link between our work on climate justice and movements like black lives matter and in australia campaign to like this in custody. So those you know that's got to be. I think the starting point for a non indigenous person like myself but having said that yes. I think there's a huge amount. We can the from the concept which in australia indigenous people talk about caring for country. I think that means as i understand it really strengthening our awareness of the the complexity and the fragility of the places the environments in which we live. I think it means Strengthening our awareness about the risks of shortsighted choices about consumption and waste and in australia. I think we're now starting to understand that. There's a huge amount to learn from indigenous communities. About how we manage food and water and fire and forests. So i think we've got a huge amount to learn and As long as we also bear in mind the need to make sure that we're not just Appropriating that knowledge that we're putting out energy to overcoming some of the injustices that exist as well. And i mean we can do this in many different ways. You describe how. It's done through art with liberate tate Yes yes Which of course is a movement which As evolved in london tight and i used that said that For christmas you might not be aware has was a movement to initially to get the tight to divest to move away from sponsors of emotional sponsors who had investments in fossil fuel. And i think the will so it's a very creative and imaginative ways of highlighting that connection and bringing pressure to bear. So that's you know. I think that's an example..