Clyde Butcher: Photographing the Everglades


Butcher but she was known primarily for his dazzling large format black and white photography the everglades glades and Florida environment regardless of your photographic background or your tastes photography. There is so much you can learn about his story career good example. How many photographers August do you know who actually made money? Selling thousands of prince through the Amazon of the Stone Age. Or as we sometimes call it the sears catalog he did it anyway. This episode is going to be a little bit different than normal because it's just a simple conversation between John. Inclined they touch on a number of interesting subjects including Bush's work in the swamps with large format cameras. His recent foray into Sony digital cameras paired with cannon tilt shift lenses and is mind boggling doctrine with vintage in lodgers. They'll also discussing the business models that he and his family employees to market is images his thoughts on black and white versus color and of course his relationship to the Florida landscape escape for which he will be forever. Linked Klein is a true American master. And it's a treat to have him on the beach photography podcast. Let's have a listen. You work the worth almost known for his kind of a process. Heavy work Invasions time working in large format. But let me ask you. Do you feel photography Is is more of a ways or means whether the means be adventure solids money whatever happens to be. Hopefully photography is the adventure through life that you bring happiness to people through your images in my work. I'm trying to bring the environment out the to the public because people big Zoya heavy idea where oxygen comes from yet so we you have to try to convince people that the earth is round round. Last I checked it worse worse spaceship and so we have a finite number of materials here so through my photography people see the beauty mhm Have to get into it too. We're looking at pictures a lot. Lotta pictures not really early Pictures of things feelings of things. Try to draw you in pictures of the really Nice Center. The interest is on the sides. Were you in the reason I might pictures you know. I guess you probably seem into Israel silver prints. They're up to five foot by eight and a half feet. Nine feet in. Nikki showed me the space in the back of the documentary. Yeah and the rinsing in the chemical tables. That's thirty eight foot long sink. Yeah five foot by four foot. Trees actually betrays sinking itself discussion. The jumping ahead. There's so many questions about that. Space that you create in the photo and what you want people to do in that space but while we're there are you know over the past twenty plus years now. We've seen this going away from from analog film photography and Printing when that first started I mean how did you ask yourself any questions. Like how am I gonNA sustain this helmet in a supply myself with these as Kodak shutting down as you you know Ilford is pulling back now. Little resurgence in that but at the time was ever questioned. What you're GonNa do well with digital came out in Kodak's at all we're we're out here? It was getting older is you can't. Is that thirty five millimeter. We're talking about you know why should up to twelve twenty negative Majority the five seventy Enjoys five seven eight by ten some love. Fourteen twelve twenty twelve twenty seven fourteen really silly information. Yeah but it's like it's like when you take a twelve or twenty hours like ticket television set out there ebbing subside down colored collar but at that time. Did you know what I must take my guns. This is what I do is what I love to do a mock going back because you know sales I dunno sales took a hit or whatever or you know those kind of things but it was it ever a conversation to have with yourself or or was it. When I was a little nervous I think it was in nineteen ninety eight? We start doing books. So we've always general books but I was doing that my own scanning my negatives okay so I had to learn photoshop so I could If the picture of the book I tried to teach me photoshop I went to a couple of courses. It was pretty today's picture here so I said I got underway doing this in analog so I figured analog way of doing now I can do ten minutes yeah and what would that. What does that analog method ended? Basically we you like when you burn something you burn. It ingredients a lot with the burn tool okay so in in that. Gradient can change the contrast in that gradient. Okay that's interesting so might have to race a little bit around say on a burning tree. I just raised a little bit around. Make a circle around contrast less contrast. I can do that with a gradient so I could just like what I do now. In the printing we have verbal contrast paper Blue Green Bulbs so I need less contrast the blue off in a burden with green more contrast bring with blue so do the same thing thing a digital album that interesting and what's exciting to me. I finally got the I think I got the right camera to now. I got the new the Fuji F G X one hundred year about it's got sixteen bit. You'll realizing advantage of sixteen bit gradients of it becomes smooth. Yeah Woah and you can't do that fourteen bit again sixteen. This breath camera to me is to automatic. I like the I have the fifty s Has got a little dials here. This was all trying trying like so so but I've had to figure out how adapt my Kansas to it because the apertures is done by the camera so actually Cambo makes an adapter the cameras the Fuji that actually controls the Iris independently of the camera. Yet as he worry about the camera anymore. Tanaka used by lenses. And I can't shoot without having I think this is the poodle relies the the difference of getting four gram laureate Liz. The tilting tilting. The camera down more foreground yet. I lower the landscape. I don't tell camera. Yeah okay so the perspective is correct and it's also different in perspective Natural I'm kind of surprised a little bit to hear the the embrace and the deep dive into you know from the Fuji in as you mentioned the Sony All these things in the digital world. Was this something that you brought to you based on the fact that you needed to physically. Well I'll I tell you the reason I starting bracing. It is because the camp there came out with INC ARCHIVAL PAPER EGO. So unless you have a media that she can print on this going to be around for awhile. I Media Irish printer. It was good for at at least good two months. There was dead because it was used for proof. Lean offset printing needed to so the client the through the weak- Anka in your mind's eye of the print. Maybe excuse me for even asking. This is the final product. I mean when you see what you're looking at. Did you see through the Lens through the landscape to the print at the medicine. Well I do you know you said to see through the Lens I actually everything I do is point shoot. I do not compose the camera. You can't a a little bit. More digital. But with a large format view us a widening the lens of Orange Arch format. You can't see the composition the ground glass to you WANNA to see if it's Focus on the edge have moved over to the left and then yet lowered the riot. So you really can't see the competition so I've learned about the first retro focus. Twenty millimeter lens came in the country in nineteen sixty two. The first Retro Focus Lens was made in East Germany but the flag on Appeal Roy. Milton reflect to got. So I've been using that in wider wider angles ever. Since then I've been wide-angled I mean I've got maybe half dozen shots were taken with different lines. Really I I go from if you relate to Full frame thirty five I go from about ten millimetres twenty

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