Amazon River, Roger Payne, Douglas Web discussed on Podcast Premiere


And how are you? Complicity. So if we go back to The early 19 hundreds, when we would consider that era to be the beginning of sonar, let's say You know, around World war really? Then we would have to go much further. We're talking 60 something years to get to around 1971, which is what we would say is the beginning of academic concerns about what sonar is doing to wildlife, the effects that it's having on whales and other creatures and animals in the ocean. And there were there were two men. That we're looking into this Roger Payne and Douglas Web. They went on to prove that Before humans had ships, small ships, large ships, massive ships just go traveling across the ocean and within the ocean before we were doing that. The tones from creatures called fin whales. So there's a specific type of wheel the tones that they were generating and the processes we've talked about. Prior to this, they could travel as far as for 1000 Miles. Within the ocean and still be discernible against just the ambient general background noise that exists when you're in the ocean. 4000 miles. The approximate distance of the Amazon River from the beginning from the mouth to the end, so they could say, Ah, what up? I'm I'm cool, Cool whale from the mouth of the Amazon River, looking for a cool well that to hang out with And then even if they were on the very far end of the Amazon River 4000 miles away. God. These other whales could hear them. Yeah, it's pretty a terrible example. Well, I mean, it's It's pretty close to the Internet. When you think about just how large the ocean is and how far away that is. If you're talking about 4000 miles in every direction. Yeah, That's a good point that a lot of people don't realize that the Internet is for 1000 miles long. That is a there's a hard limit. That has been put into place. We did not make the rules..

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