Saudi Arab, Raul Garcia, Luka Modrić discussed on ESPN FC

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Because that mean that tomorrow, that banana is starting to go a bit squishy and a bit black and it's not so good anymore. More black, you know? How close how close arm would you to be? Because Madrid know this by the way. There's a reason they signed coming and there's a reason they have very Valverde. They are aware that at some point that transition has to happen. But of course, Luka Modrić keeps on putting it off by being brilliant. Yeah. So there you go. So the banana hasn't turned all black. Then you add a vespas to a Madrid back in 2003. I mean, I can't even believe my brain can't even process this stuff. I believe to score that goal, he was a famous goal where he dribbled past Hugo Sanchez and Raphael Martin Vasquez major anger dio all in one run. That's how long ago it was. I finally said, excuse me, played in Saudi. It's not unusual for super cups to even play abroad and say the eyes done it. Yeah, you can plenty of time. Where'd you go? Yeah, Morocco, he's right, China, Canada. There you go, all over the world. Kind of what the French speaking part I assume here? Yeah, it was real. But obviously with Saudi it is more of a loaded issue as well, given the human rights record. Were you surprised that raul Garcia, the Atlético bowel guy said before, but before this game about why are we doing this? Why are we going here? I was surprised because I was surprised that a player was prepared to say it. I think I should probably caveat this in terms of rail Garcia. Because Rao Garcia, the way he expressed this was actually not about the politics. He didn't talk about the Saudi regime. He didn't talk about Saudi society. He didn't talk about LGBT rights or women's rights. He didn't focus it on that at all. He focused it on a very, very much more simple thing, which takes it away from Saudi Arab and goes back to all those examples you were just reading out. On a very simple thing of this is the Spanish Super Cup. Why are we going abroad? Not just not necessarily we're going to tell you, but in Rao Garth's defense, because, well, I don't know if counsel's defense, but I think so. He talked about it as a part of a broader thing of not really caring about the fans. And here, by the way, of course, we have to recognize this. It's a narrow view of what fans are. You know, she's talking about the fans that go to your games every week. The fans that are in your kind of local community, which of course, if you play for athletic club, is an even more powerful statement in a way, because you're talking about a club that's very much of its community. And he said, we don't do things thinking about fans. So for example, he even picked up on or mentioned, you know, the games we play in Spain are at bad kick off times. We're doing things for markets and for sponsors, not the fans. And in that sense, of course, as I say, it's not about the political element of going to Saudi Arabia. It's about the fact that you're taking it somewhere else. And I want to slightly defend raul Garcia as well from the accusation. The inevitably has come from this, which is, well, you make a load of money because of all this. Well, he doesn't actually make a lot of money because of all this because this is the first time athletic club had been forced to go abroad. Now this cyber contract four years ago before any of these happened. So he's not saying let's not have money, that's not have commercial viability. Let's not Chase investment. Let's not say sponsorship. He's saying, let's not lose sight of those theoretically simple elements, and he also caveated this or preface it by saying, look, yeah, I'm quite old fashioned. I see the football in slightly different terms. So I don't see the hypocrisy that he's accused of because of the simple fact that he's paid to play football. That doesn't make him a hypocrite. What? Because he's paid money. He's not allowed to have an opinion. He's not allowed to say hang on. Should we stop this? I just think that's a nonsense argument. It just doesn't stand up, in my opinion. Well, if anything you could argue he's entitled to more of an opinion because he benefits from it. You see what I'm saying? He's actually advocating something that could be the detrimental to him. He's advocating not going there and not having that money. And you know what, if that means we have less and I have less, I still think it's the right thing to do. And as I say though, it wasn't focused on the political side of it, which has been talked about a bit, but less sona now because it's the second time they've gone. The first time they went, the president of the Spanish federation rubiales. I tried to suggest that this was a moment of perestroika. This was opening things up. We will go there and this will help women's rights. This will help open up Saudi society. He even tried to call it the Super Cup of equality. So, you know, by us going there, this will change things. I think this time he's realized that that's actually probably backfired on him. Out of it. Joe Joe's, I mean, as I see it, there are about as it says. The club is very rooted in its community and in the Basque Country and so on. Around Madrid, I think, in justice legitimately say, well, that's not us. We're a global brand. We have found some all over Spain..

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